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What a trek into the city! I think it's perfectly ok for strollers to use the handicap elevators in the subway. It's not safe to carry them up and down the stairs or escalators. I use the elevators in my scooter and never questioned when people with strollers use them as well. Trying to remember which subway stops in NYC are accessible and which are not is such a pain! Then, when you find one with an elevator you have to deal with the disgusting fact that they're often used as urinals.
I hadn't thought about the urinal tendency Now I'm really glad we struggled hauling the stroller up and down the stairs. There are only a few handicap accessible subway stops on the Metro line and some only offer elevators from the turnstile down to the platform levels, so there are still stairs to be dealt with. I was really surprised how handicap unfriendly the city seemed to be. I thought for sure that would have changed in the past 10 years since my last visit.

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Oh my goodness, I can't believe how far behind they were running behind! I also can't believe the struggle you had with the stroller - you guys must've been exhausted by the time you got there.
It was a long morning, but it was also fun and gave me a new appreciation for living in Ohio where it's a ton easier to deal with strollers

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That was a lot of stroller lifting on a hot day. I can't imagine waiting that long for a doctor's appointment. A positive aspect of living in small town America. Sounds like you all have your hands full with home redo projects.

I can't believe you actually live in Troy. My parents were both teaching in Pleasant Hill (don't know if you know that even smaller town) when I was born at Stouder Memorial Hospital in Troy. A few months ago Luke and I were shopping in Hobby Lobby when I saw these cute boxes made from yard sticks cut up. Then I looked closer and the yard sticks had Troy, Ohio on them. I had to buy one.
I had to reply separately Are you ready for a few more "small world" moments?

Pleasant Hill (referred to as P-Hill around here) has been split into two districts - half of the town goes to Newton Schools and the other portion feeds into Milton-Union. I used to teach in Milton-Union. Next, Stouder Memorial Hospital? The city built a new Hospital a few years back, Upper Valley, on 25 A halfway between Troy and Piqua. Stouder was purchased by Troy Schools and now houses the special education preschool, where my son Cullen goes to school.
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Pleasant Hill (referred to as P-Hill around here) has been split into two districts - half of the town goes to Newton Schools and the other portion feeds into Milton-Union. I used to teach in Milton-Union. Next, Stouder Memorial Hospital? The city built a new Hospital a few years back, Upper Valley, on 25 A halfway between Troy and Piqua. Stouder was purchased by Troy Schools and now houses the special education preschool, where my son Cullen goes to school.
Mom and Dad taught in the Newton School district. How cool that the old hospital has been refurbed for special needs kids. I have had family who lived in Piqua, but I'm not sure if any do anymore or not. My Mom grew up in and around Mendon. My grandfather was a migrant/itinerant worker for many years before he got a full-time factory job that allowed them to buy a home in Mendon. I have an aunt and uncle (Mom's siblings) who still live in Celina. This is just too cool. "Small World" keeps playing in my head.
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Cam, I'll try to get a good picture of Stouder when I'm there for meetings next week though I'm nowhere near as good at taking pictures as you!

Jill and I had boarded the #5 Express train back to Brooklyn. Everything was fine until we heard the conductor's voice announcing a "signal problem" that requires all guests to depart the train at the next stop. We got off at Bowling Green and I did have a picture of the sign because that's where Coach and I met...only in Ohio. I was a bit nervous, but Jill said that we'd take the #4 which ran on the same track but took longer because it wasn't an express train. After about a five minute wait, a #4 train pulled up. We boarded, settled baby G and chatted. She said it was the first time in several years that a train she'd been on "malfunctioned" and had to be taken off service. Then...we had to get off two stops later and switch to the #2 train in order to get closer to her apartment. Honestly, we probably could have walked, but it was raining and despite my mom's advice, we hadn't brought an umbrella with us. The only way we could tell it was raining was from the very wet people heading down to the platform. We got off at the correct stop for the #2 train and were confronted with the ONLY way to get to the ticket level...an escalator I suggested she carry the carseat and I would take the stroller up the escalator - we couldn't fold it up because we had no way to carry the food we'd bought at Union Market...she felt we could just lift the stroller up and hold it above the escalator stairs. Our only choice was to take the #2 up to the next stop and then hike the 6 blocks back toward her house. That was my choice, but to the escalator we went.

We made it okay, but my arm muscles were aching. We stopped at the ticket area and had to wait for an attendant to buzz Jill through the handicap gate - thankfully, we didn't have to lift the stroller over the turnstiles. Finally, we reached our last set of stairs and lifted the stroller (and now frantically hungry baby) up to street level. Jill had a rain shield which I helped her put on because she'd never used it and off we set toward the apartment. Matt texted to say he was finally boarding a train from Columbia and would be home in about an hour, apologizing because he'd been held up over a discussion over his work trip to Africa that was coming up. We reached the apartment at 3:30, exhausted and Jill was starting to get frazzled because Gabe was furiously hungry, and had soaked through his diaper and his last clean outfit.

We let ourselves into her apartment. My Dad was on a work phone call, and Mom was putting away the rest of the baby's laundry. She'd also done a couple loads of clothes for my brother who mentioned that he needed clean clothes. As I put the groceries away, Jill cleaned up Gabe and sat down to feed him. We heard someone knocking at the door, and Dad thought it was Matt. Figuring he'd locked himself out again, he opened the door only to be confronted by two people who stated they were from the Housing Authority.

Jill came into the room hall and asked them to produce verification, which they did. They explained that they were here to inspect to see if they'd remedied "past violations" on the co-op. Jill, still a bit flustered over Gabe, got defensive and said that they'd requested an inspection 2 1/2 years ago. The guy, Javier, just shrugged and informed her that they were "here now". Dad was feeling quite confused and a lot protective, was telling Jill to go call Matt before she let them in. Thankfully, George, the building super arrived on the scene to help Jill out. Suddenly, Gabe, realizing he was alone and still hungry, started wailing. Jill asked me to go tend to him while she looked over the paperwork.
Javier asked her if the baby lived here and she said that he did, but he was born only four weeks ago. So, he cautioned her..."Do you have baby gates on all windows? If there aren't gates and I see the windows, I have to assess a penalty." Jill picking up on that said, "Could you go inspect another co-op and come back when Matt is here?"

George was laughing - "is a four week old baby going to abre la puerta?" He asked Javier..."No, hombre, el nino can't even move on his own". Javier stood his ground and reiterated that the baby guards needed to be installed on every window - even the bathroom window which had been painted shut going clear back to the 1980 inspection.

Once they left, Jill settled down with Gabe while furiously texting my brother. George returned with window guards and had my Dad help him begin to install the guards on the windows, both of them were laughing about needing them, mainly because the co-op was due to begin installing brand new windows September 1st and all the windows were coming with baby guards, whether children resided in the apartments or not.

About an hour later, Javier and his partner re-entered the apartment and inspected the old violations, noted the newly installed baby guards but "violated" the apartment because the windows still opened all the way. George again argued with the inspectors because the windows were all going to be replaced, and the new windows would have the stoppers to prevent them from opening higher than the baby guards. Matt arrived in the midst of the predominantly Spanish argument, produced the papers showing the new window installation date and components which would be installed. That must have satisfied the inspectors because they left and did not issue any official violations. Dad of course was still confused as to why the inspectors were there to begin with if the apartment was officially owned by Matt & Jill rather than a rental Finally, we convinced Dad that different cities have different rules.
It was now 5:00 and I hadn't talked with Coach or the boys ALL DAY so I called because I was in withdrawl. He didn't answer? I left him a message and went to talk with Matt about dinner - Jill and I planned to make a clam pasta, with a light salad using the tomatoes I'd brought from the garden. We hit a roadblock when Matt remembered that Zach's wife, Esther, is allergic to shellfish so we sat down to talk through our options Finally, we decided to put some of the Basil Jelly I'd made on top of goat cheese and serve it with crackers as an appetizer. Esther was bringing a Cold Cucumber Soup and Matt was going to make this pasta dish with jalepenos, red onion and lemon. We would have a fresh Cherry pie made by Jill for desert. Matt and I headed down to the local grocery store to pick up a few items while Dad helped Jill pit the fresh cherries and Mom enjoyed some "Gabe" time.


We finished up the dinner preparations just as Zach and Esther arrived, and my phone rang. It was Coach, finally checking in. He said that the'd washed the van, then swam in the pool for a bit before deciding to head up a day early to his parents' house. It was Chicken Festival weekend, and he thought the kids might be better off being entertained with Grammy and Grampa. Buckeye fans will like this part - The Danger Brothers were playing at the Festival that night as part of the all Delta-Pike-York Reunion and Coach was going to check it out. The last time I was able to see the Danger Brothers, I was pregnant with Nolan and serving as the Designated Driver for a group of our friends.

After I said goodnight to the boys, who didn't really want to talk because they were getting ready to watch a movie, I told Coach to give me a call later and rejoined the party.

Matt's grade school friend gave him a bottle of wine from his father-in-law's vineyard in California for a baby shower gift and Matt opened it so we could enjoy it with our appetizer. Now, I'm not one for wine, but I was curious to see what a $150.00 bottle of Merlot tastes like. It was really good! Matt sent a picture to his friend of us toasting and we moved through dinner. Everything was delicious, and we left with bellies hurting from laughter about 11:30 that night. It was raining pretty hard, so Zach and Esther rode back with us (they live in the brownstone next to where we were staying).

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Such an ordeal with the subway! I can't imagine how Jill would have gotten throught that day without your help. And how did she have energy to make a cherry pie?! The scene with the housing guys about the windows is such a farce-- welcome to life in NY!
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The subway does not sound designed at all for strollers. And then the ordeal with the inspectors. Thank goodness dinner was a success!
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I had no idea how unfriendly the New York subway was to strollers, but now I think about it, I guess London's not much different, as very few stations, outside of the newer ones have step free access from the entrance to the platform. I can't get over those building inspectors either. Thank goodness they were able to satisfy them in the end.
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Such an ordeal with the subway! I can't imagine how Jill would have gotten throught that day without your help. And how did she have energy to make a cherry pie?! The scene with the housing guys about the windows is such a farce-- welcome to life in NY!
Jill has a lot more energy than I did with a little one that age She also has an incurable sweet tooth so she was driven to make the cherry pie because she's never happy with "store bought" or bakery versions. My brother reverse to it as her "champagne tastes on a beer budget" and tries to remind her that she's only four weeks out from having a baby...she would pay for all the activity the following day.

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I still am surprised at the transportation issues given that many, many families live in NYC. When we tour on Saturday, we took mostly drove.

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Strollers in NYC sound like a nightmare! I'm glad that you had a great time at dinner though. Sounds like a nice ending to the day.
It was a nice ending, and I was very glad that I hadn't had the youngest with me. I'd actually toyed with the idea of bringing one of my boys with me - Cullen being the obvious choice because it would have been easier for Coach to just handle the older two. Cullen's stroller is MUCH heavier than the one Jill uses for Gabe - that would have been a ROYAL pain because I would have worried about his bolting tendencies when he wasn't strapped into the stroller.

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I had no idea how unfriendly the New York subway was to strollers, but now I think about it, I guess London's not much different, as very few stations, outside of the newer ones have step free access from the entrance to the platform. I can't get over those building inspectors either. Thank goodness they were able to satisfy them in the end.
I hadn't thought about London's subways in a long time. I have a good friend from HS who spent four years in London when her husband was transferred there (he's originally from Britain). While she was there, they had two babies and she wrote a really entertaining blog about adjusting to the British way of doing things, including a few entries about why the public transportation is so much more efficient than our versions.

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I'm trying to get this update posted, but between problems here on the boards, and Photobucket being a major pain...this might be a short update

I do have some cute pictures from the Cinci Zoo, but photobucket is refusing to upload them (I keep getting "timed out") so they'll have to wait Last night, I attended my first official department meeting as an adjunct and received all new textbooks for the classes I will be teaching - that start in 20 days . For the writing class, the textbook is an updated version of the one I'd been previously given, so it shouldn't be too difficult to tweak my lesson plans. Honestly, I made more of a curriculum map and really only planned out the first week of instruction because I will need to adjust once I meet the students. Right now, my MW class has 14 students, with only one more seat available. The TR class doesn't begin until the end of October, but is already full with 30 students. That class involves an entirely new book series, including a common novel which I've never read, so I have a lot of planning to do for that course. I've also been asked to consider teaching a class in Darke County and I may pick it up, if I can arrange afternoon care for the younger two kiddos for an hour. I have until Friday to provide an answer. If I can't get there to physically teach the course, there is a possibility I may be allowed to teach it on-line, which would be an awesome solution

Coach is taking the older boys halfway to his mom's. They're going to spend the night with her after going to the Sauder Historical Village in Archbold, Ohio. Nolan loves history, so I think he'll really appreciate the working historical village. Tomorrow, Coach and I will travel up with Cullen. We'll all spend the night before returning home on Thursday. Cullen was a bit bent out of shape at being excluded, but I plan on taking him to the library, the video store and out for ice cream after dinner

Back to the report:

We arrived back at our flat around midnight that Friday, and I texted Coach. He seemed to be enjoying the Danger Brother's concert. I was pretty tired, so I quickly turned in. Saturday morning, my phone rang at 7:00 and woke me up. Nolan was telling me about their trip up to Grammy's, helping "cook" dinner and making cupcakes with Grammy. They planned on heading to the Chicken Festival - which is held in the park right behind my in-laws, and were going to Coach's friends' to swim after dinner. Nolan asked when I would be coming home, and admitted that he missed me and "might have even cried" a little at bedtime the previous night. The other two refused to talk, but I expected that because the boys rarely like to talk on the phone. I talked to Coach, then showered and dressed for the day. Dad and I were debating where we should go to get coffee, when Matt texted to see if we'd like to meet up for breakfast at a cafe he liked on Prospect. After another debate, we decided to walk because in Matt's words, it was like "six" short blocks.

Already, at 8:45 it was sunny and very hot and humid. We were predicted to have temps in the upper 80's to low 90's with high humidity and a chance of showers/thunderstorms later that day. We set off walking and I realized after half a block, we were going the wrong way We turned around, and I suggested to Dad that he might want to get the car because it was a lot of walking. My mom had to have her knee replaced in 2009, then in 2011 she was diagnosed with cervical cancer. After surgery, chemo and radiation she's been cleared of cancer, but still gets very tired easily and doesn't deal well with extreme temperatures. Dad thought it might prove difficult to park, and that we should just walk slower, so on we went in the correct direction this time.

We found Matt and Gabe sitting at a little cafe table. Matt and Dad went in to order while I pushed the stroller to get Gabe back to sleep. Mom ordered an ice water and a blueberry and bran muffin, Dad had a bagel with cream cheese and a black coffee, Matt had a cheddar jack and jalepeno biscuit and a very large coffee and I chose a cranberry scone and water. Everything was delicious, though I'm not sure it was worth the $40 we paid. After we ate we headed back to our place because Matt wanted to go to the street market to pick up some fresh vegetables. There was a hidden co-op garden founded in 1850 across from where we were staying and every Saturday, they opened the garden for public access and sold extra produce. Dad, Matt and I toured the garden. I was really amused to see four chickens hanging out in the back of the garden. They also had a goat. We didn't buy anything, but I really enjoyed walking around.

Jill was moving a bit slow probably because of our adventures into the city, making the cherry pie and hosting the dinner party. She'd decided that she wanted to go to a Mommy and Me Yoga class at noon. While she was going to do that, Matt felt it was a good time for us to "act like tourists" and tour Brooklyn we did!

Next update: A picture favor for Nolan, Rockaway neighborhood and eating at a friend's restaraunt
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I'm not surprised you guys were moving slowly after the day before! That weather would exhaust me as well - I have chronic fatigue and exceptionally hot or cold temperatures always tire me out.
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Heat and humidity always feel worse in the city! I used to visit a friend in Brooklyn all the time, so it'll be fun to read about your tour.
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I'm not surprised you guys were moving slowly after the day before! That weather would exhaust me as well - I have chronic fatigue and exceptionally hot or cold temperatures always tire me out.
The humidity was starting to really build up. I don't know how Matt & Jill made it through the following week with temps in the 90's and excessive heat warnings.

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Heat and humidity always feel worse in the city! I used to visit a friend in Brooklyn all the time, so it'll be fun to read about your tour.
Hopefully, I won't mess up things too much! My notes are kind of sketchy because I tried to jot things down as my brother drove us around
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