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Really looking forward to the new edition... We are planning a Med cruise for this August and I love the excursion reviews in the book! Will preorder as soon as I see it available!
Amazon.co.uk have just sold me one so I hope they weren't just teasing! I was a bit suspicious that they had them but passporter didn't ....
Was it a preorder? You can buy it now on Amazon here (in the US) too, but it's a preorder, and says: This title has not yet been released. You may pre-order it now and we will deliver it to you when it arrives.
Was it a preorder? You can buy it now on Amazon here (in the US) too, but it's a preorder, and says: This title has not yet been released. You may pre-order it now and we will deliver it to you when it arrives.
Nope, just double checked, it's a proper open order with estimated delivery date of 13th May! I won't hold my breath though. It says usually available 7-9 days ...
The 2011 books still have yet to go to print so I am pretty sure the Amazon UK ship date of May 13th is not going to happen.
I know (for a fact) that they are finishing up a major part of the book that will be essential for next year's sailings so once those are finished, peer reviewed and edited, they will send the book to print and the online edition will become available! Have faith and patience . . . the book will be well worth it!
I have to admit that I am very disappointed they are fooling around with 2012 stuff that won't even be complete and letting those of us waiting for Alaska info swing in the wind. They're running the risk of losing all the sales connected to the Alaska cruises. And the stuff they adding won't be accurate by next year anyway.
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1984 WDW off-site, 2003 WDW ASS, Poly, Wonder, 2006 WDW PC, 2011 Wonder to Alaska,
2012 Wonder EBPC, 2014 Magic WBTA, 2016 WDW CSR
I have to admit that I am very disappointed they are fooling around with 2012 stuff that won't even be complete and letting those of us waiting for Alaska info swing in the wind. They're running the risk of losing all the sales connected to the Alaska cruises. And the stuff they adding won't be accurate by next year anyway.
Sorry, but we're not "fooling around" with 2012 information. Every edition we produce looks forward to the following year's itineraries, to the greatest extent we can. People have to make expensive buying decisions, and if we can help, we will. We do not produce the port of call descriptions or guess at shore excursions for the following year, we stick to the current year. Inaccuracy is not an issue, except when we have to speculate over something Disney hasn't announced (like the details of the Disney Dream, which couldn't be known until we were on board).
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I have to admit that I am very disappointed they are fooling around with 2012 stuff that won't even be complete and letting those of us waiting for Alaska info swing in the wind. They're running the risk of losing all the sales connected to the Alaska cruises. And the stuff they adding won't be accurate by next year anyway.
I don't think they are fooling around with 2012 information, I know that they want to make sure the information they are providing to people is as up to date as possible. I don't think they want to lose Alaska cruise sales but I do think waiting for the 2011 edition is going to be worth it. They also wouldn't release false or inaccurate information for next year, but it does give people something to look forward to, especially considering the Fantasy is going to be so similar to the Dream. Just be patient, it will be worth it. I have never been disappointed with anything that PP has put out. It's worth the wait.
I'm sorry, I didn't mean that the info is inaccurate when put together. But it will be by the time the 2012 cruises go because there is too little info available now. Disney doesn't seem to know what they are doing in any detail so there's no way the Passporter team can. I'm just frustrated that a resource that I love is not becoming available when it would help me and at least one of the reasons given is next year's itineraries. It seems you are trying to do too much and not getting it done as well as you used to. I realize it is hard to keep up with the changes Disney makes and that any book is outdated as soon as it is published. I just wish you had gone with your original, early spring publishing plans.
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1984 WDW off-site, 2003 WDW ASS, Poly, Wonder, 2006 WDW PC, 2011 Wonder to Alaska,
2012 Wonder EBPC, 2014 Magic WBTA, 2016 WDW CSR
FWIW Kim, I share your frustration. I'm sailing on the May 29th and feel a bit like you do. I really want the 2011 PP Cruise book, but chances aren't looking good right now to have it in hand by then.
I can see where Dave is coming from tho - they want to have as much info and as accurate info as possible; and even once they do, they are at the mercy of the printer and the shipping lanes. It's kinda out of their hands at that point.
I'm sure it's as frustrating (if not more so) for Dave and Jen to see missed sales, as it is for us to beg for it's release Some of us will still buy the book even if we've already sailed, some of us won't.
But Dave, just keep in mind our whining is because we love your product so much!
FWIW Kim, I share your frustration. I'm sailing on the May 29th and feel a bit like you do. I really want the 2011 PP Cruise book, but chances aren't looking good right now to have it in hand by then.
I can see where Dave is coming from tho - they want to have as much info and as accurate info as possible; and even once they do, they are at the mercy of the printer and the shipping lanes. It's kinda out of their hands at that point.
I'm sure it's as frustrating (if not more so) for Dave and Jen to see missed sales, as it is for us to beg for it's release Some of us will still buy the book even if we've already sailed, some of us won't.
But Dave, just keep in mind our whining is because we love your product so much!
It's totally frustrating! I understand the info needs to be accurate but it would be nice to have SOME sort of idea (the month even?) of when it's coming out! I am sure they are working as hard as they can but oh my word - they should have maybe put it out out on time w/an update on the site or something.
This happened with last year's edition, where they were trying to get any amount of info on the Dream & Magic before putting it out, and those of us on the Baltic couldn't get it before sailing. But I think this year, they are being very smart in not giving info on a release date because THEY DON'T YET KNOW WHAT THAT DATE IS. Last year they had pre-orders, and then A LOT of angry people, some who were NOT very nice to Jennifer & Dave on these boards, when the book wasn't ready as originally predicted. I'm sure they feel burned by that - I would if I was in the same shoes.
I am anxious to get the 2011 version, as we'll reach our booking window in 2 weeks. But I know that they can't rush something like this. I cannot imagine how much work goes into each of these books at any time, but especially as Disney is making changes to itineraries, and adding brand new ships.
So Dave & Jennifer, I will continue to be patient, and know that whenever the book is ready, it will be worth the wait!
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