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These ruins look somewhat better preserved than the city of Pompeii. I totally see more paintings and art in the buildings and houses. The tile floors are amazing.
It's funny the odds and ends of trivia that we remember from school days! I've always had an interest in archaeology, and have continued to read on the subject, so I guess that's why the info sticks-- some of it, at least!
Wow - you learnt this stuff from school? That was an impressive school you went to.
The insides of these places seem to have more paintings? is it jsut that it preserved better? it is so neat to think this is what people looked at so many years ago. This was the "style".
It may well have been. I can't remember the difference between the two sites now, but they were certainly preserved in a different way. I'll have to try and find out what that was...
Was this place also covered by the same eruption as Pompeii (I could look it up, but feeling lazy, and only have a few minutes to read while having lunch at work - so hoping your or Laurie will just give me the info!)?
It was covered by the same eruption and I think, if memory serves me right, it was a much more recent find than Pompeii.
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Looks like another great site. Was it as crowded as Pompeii? Sounds like it's a popular spot for local school groups?
It wasn't that crowded. Maybe it was because it was a bit later in the day?
Both cities were protected by the volcanic ash that covered them. Pompeii was discovered in 1599, and the site was pillaged, poorly excavated for many years. It's only recently that more careful excavation and modern techniques have been able to preserve some of the artwork. Herculaneum wasn't found until the 19th century, so there's been much less time for colors to fade. A lot of damage was done by the first excavations, but the frescoes have now been coated with a preservative now, so won't fade as fast.
Wow - you learnt this stuff from school? That was an impressive school you went to.
One of my masters degrees is in Ancient Greek language and archaeology, but that was in the 70's so, believe me, I've forgotten a lot more than I remember!
Both cities were protected by the volcanic ash that covered them. Pompeii was discovered in 1599, and the site was pillaged, poorly excavated for many years. It's only recently that more careful excavation and modern techniques have been able to preserve some of the artwork. Herculaneum wasn't found until the 19th century, so there's been much less time for colors to fade. A lot of damage was done by the first excavations, but the frescoes have now been coated with a preservative now, so won't fade as fast.
One of my masters degrees is in Ancient Greek language and archaeology, but that was in the 70's so, believe me, I've forgotten a lot more than I remember!
Ok, so I have to ask - how many masters degrees do you have?
Monday 6 May – part twelve: this will be fun on the way back
We walked down the Decumano Inferiore, and came across the House with the Large Portal, which gets its name from the main entrance doorway.
Next we found the large taberna, which as the name suggests is essentially a pub. This is connected to a small dwelling.
We wandered along the road, seeing more great sights…
One of my favourite places in the whole of Herculaneum was the House of Relief of Telephus, because of the beautiful colours that can still be seen here. It’s the second biggest building in the city and was built in a good position. As you’ll see in a moment, it was right by a slope leading down to the marina. It was built on three levels and had a collection of sculptures in it.
Now it was down that slope, and it was really steep – oh boy, this will be fun on the way back!
We headed down to the Terrace of M. Nonius Balbus, which had these amazing statues in. It was named after a senator, who helped to restore and build a number of buildings in the city, and as a result, he had a number of statues erected in his honour. The main altar is a funeral altar, dedicated to him and he is immortalised next to it. I have no idea about the other two statues here, but I was absolutely enchanted by them. The detail in them, complete with the hair colour, was really something.
From here, we descended down to the bottle of the city, by the water, which would have been the beach when Herculaneum existed. Here, you get a good view of the Barrel Arches. These were used to store boats and as warehouses for the port. Here, they’ve found around 300 bodies, along with a Roman boat. One of the effects of the eruption which buried the city was to deposit a new strip of land closest to the sea, around 400 metres wide.
There’s a walkway that takes you underneath the area you entered through, and you can even exit this way, although we weren’t ready to do that just yet, exhausted as we were.
We made our way back across the bridge, and into the Sacred Area, which contains two temples, one dedicated to Venus, and the other dedicated to four divinities.
This turned out to be a dead end, so it was back into the Terrace of M. Nonius Balbus and up that nice steep slope back upwards. By the time we got back out on to Cardo V Inferiore, we were both shattered, and caught our breath for a moment, although I felt like I needed an hour’s sit down to stop my feet aching.
Well, there are only a couple of instalments left of this trip report and I was hoping to have it all posted before we headed out to Paris, but it was not to be, so I'll be running with three trip reports for a little while when I get back. The next update will be Sunday/Monday when we return!
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That was an impressive school you went to. 
Your pictures from Pompeii and Herculaneum are all so fascinating!
The detail in them, complete with the hair colour, was really something. 
By the time we got back out on to Cardo V Inferiore, we were both shattered, and caught our breath for a moment, although I felt like I needed an hour’s sit down to stop my feet aching. 
The next update will be Sunday/Monday when we return! 
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