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I'm thinking we need to have lots of small family time, and less groups activity time...
Definitely yes to the above! We went with 10 once and I wish I'd made it clear that we didn't have to do EVERYTHING together.

You might need to move in to a winery at this rate!
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When we assume the kiddos are not listening!!!! That is funny!!!

And yes.....lots of vino will get you through this trip!!! We have friends that we generally travel well with ~ have for many many trips ~ but there is something about traveling with just your own little family that it much more pleasant
You remember when I was all worried about the nuclear family trip? Turns out it was awesome!! Now I'm worried about going with people!
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Move to a winery...hmmmm. I like it!!
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The Stitch story is so cute & it's adorable that your son still holds a grudge. Your mother seems infuriating at times but you got to love her! Lol
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Ok. That story about Adam & Stitch and b of course your mother & you actually has me laughing out loud. My son stopped watching Super Why to see why I was laugjing. Thanks, my stressful week needed that release.
So glad to make your day!! I often channel George Costanza--Serenity Now!!
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Ol girl! I should tell you about my MIL (WOW!) I know just how you feel, my MLI is a lot (worse) then your mom! We are getting ready to take a trip and my MIL invited herself! And now is trying to call ALL the shots and we now have to take her car, which is a minivan (not a fan!) I have a suburban with DVD and TONS of room! but ol no!!! And that's just a small dose of it! Cant wait to hear/read the rest!
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Ol girl! I should tell you about my MIL (WOW!) I know just how you feel, my MLI is a lot (worse) then your mom! We are getting ready to take a trip and my MIL invited herself! And now is trying to call ALL the shots and we now have to take her car, which is a minivan (not a fan!) I have a suburban with DVD and TONS of room! but ol no!!! And that's just a small dose of it! Cant wait to hear/read the rest!
My MIL would be way worse!! Jake has sworn he will never take a family vacation with them again. I guess he and his first wife went to Myrtle Beach with his parents and they basically were like glue; family vacation is for family time! He doesn't even like it when they come to our house because they just follow you from room to room wondering what to do with themselves.

Also, his mother believes that people shouldn't bother with recycling/green behaviors because the Rapture is coming and Jesus will save us. Look, Rapture may or may not be coming, but supposing it's not next week, and is instead, oh, 500 years from now, maybe we should be good stewards in the meantime.
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Did you ever find out which character meal was the one she wanted?
I think it was Chef Mickey as it's the only other hotel character meal she's been to (that I know of). Saying "the one in the hotel" is pretty typical. We get quite a bit of "you know, that guy on that show I like" kind of stuff. That's not new, she's been doing that since I was kid.

My favorite: After watching ALL of the latest Star Wars movies (episodes 1-3) in the theaters, during the almost final scenes of Episode 3, when Anakin finally wearing the Darth Vader get up, my mother asks/says, with complete shock--HE'S DARTH VADER?!
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Should I continue with my mother? I promise the points thing has a story, but maybe my mother is more entertaining.

When Mrs. Neighbor and I first discussed a trip together, around the firepit we share, with a few adult beverages, she asked me what my parents would say. I assured her they would be totally fine with it. We even talked a bit about getting a Grand Villa, my parents could have the Master, we'd each get a double room and the kids could all sleep in the living room. It's really too many points, but we thought it would be fun.

I go about my business, looking at points options and flights and so on and a few days later mention to my mother that we're planning to switch our vacation from the last week of April to sometime in January.

My mother responded with a tone that is typically reserved for people who kill puppies.

I can't recall the exact order of her list of reasons why I was completely off my nut to go in January but the sum up was thus: She used to live and Florida, and SHE KNOWS that it's too cold and kids won't swim then and it's too cold and she'll be too cold and Adam won't swim and don't I remember how cold the marathon was that one year and how could I do this without asking them first.

It's that last one that really got me but in a point by point rebuttal I noted that I also had been to Florida in January, every January for the six years they lived in Orlando; that once the marathon was 32 degrees at the start but the next year it was 72 at the start; I've never seen a kid not swim in January in Disney, in fact, I usually see kids swim until they look like popsicles; my kid doesn't even like swimming so I'm not planning a trip around his current aversion to water; and my final point--THESE ARE NOT YOUR DVC POINTS, YOU DO NOT BUY YOUR OWN PLANE TICKETS, THESE ARE NOT YOUR CHOICES TO MAKE.

Before you get all upset that I'm yelling at my mother, I didn't actually say any of these things. I thought most of it. With many choice words in the middle. But then I pointed out that in January, the fireworks are pretty early and Adam didn't get to see them in April/May because he was too tired. That stopped her for a minute. I may have also pointed out that she is not the only human being to ever have experienced January in Florida.

Then my father, the voice of reason that usually stays out of it because he has to actually live with her, says the thing that changes her mind: if we go in January all of our friends will be there and we can stay for an extra week or two to see everyone, won't it be great to leave here in the middle of winter like we used to?

Dad, for the win.

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Dad to the rescue! I'm thinking I might have said, "well you can stay home then". So just thinking those things was ok!
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Dad to the rescue! I'm thinking I might have said, "well you can stay home then". So just thinking those things was ok!
I know!! You would have thought I proposed a trip to Siberia the way she was going on about how cold it was.
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