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Old 06-02-2010, 05:24 PM   #31
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If the mirror was only pushed in and nothing damaged, who cares?
For one, you have to question what the INTENT behind it was. Was pushing themirror in an attempt to damage the vehicle? Or, was it a warning that "next time,maybe something will BREAK" ...?

For two, you have to be conscious of the potential for escalation. And no, simply "giving in" and letting that girl have the parking spot, is NOT guaranteed to avoid escalation. Speaking as someone who spent most of his school years on the receiving end of bullying ... giving in like that, has a 50/50 chance of acting like "blood in the water", where the bully is a shark: it may merely incite her to do more, believing she's found a victim who can't or won't fight back.



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I see where you're coming from, but if school is out this week, is this kid seriously going to hold a grudge and remember your vehicle all summer long?
Yes.

Habitual bullies have an uncanny ability to remember their potential victims, and long lists of (real or imagined) slights and/or "insults" that serve to "justify" their bullying. And that girl sounds like a very habitual bully.

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And like you said, they are teens - I would think that with not being in school and no spot to "fight" over she'll probably lose interest and next fall move onto someone and something else.
No. She'll remember, the moment the existance of that parking space becomes important again. Day one of next year, she'll get to the parking lot.

And if the OP's daughter is already parked there, she'll say to herself or her friend(s) "Oh, it's that b_tch again ... remember what a pain in the _ss she was last year? Looks like she needs to be reminded who this space belongs to!" ... and it'll start all over.

If she gets there before the OP's daughter, she';; say to herself or her friends "Hah, remember that b_tch who was all 'mommy,mommy, they tooked my toy' about this space last year? I wonder if she'll be any fun this year? Let's go find out!" ... and it'll start all over.

Seriously.

With a bully, there's no way to win that includes "give them what they want", nor is there a way to win that includes "maybe they'll (forget)/(get bored)/(find someone new)". In the former case, they'll always decide they want something MORE. In the latter case ... they don't, plain and simple.





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There should be a zero tolerence law in all schools.
Two problems with that.

One - zero tolerance rarely works, and tends to scoop up the innocent along with the guilty.

Two - zero tolerance rules are essentially a violation of the students' Right to Due Process (U.S. Constitution, 5th amendment).

OTOH, a "we take this VERY seriously, and ALL reported cases will be investigated and acted upon" is a workable policy, as long as the school follows through on it. (That caveat being true of ANY policy, even "zero tolerance".)
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Oh yes, they CAN do something about it, it's just that 9 times out of 10 they don't! If schools did all they could to stop the nonsense that goes on in their halls there would be no stories on the news about children being bullied to the point of suicide. There should be a zero tolerence law in all schools. Spoiled brats like this girl are usually not afraid of the consequenses. Telling on her may even make matters worse. The whole situation makes me sick. It takes me back to jr high. I've been picked on before, and I remember my mom going to the school about it, and d$#% if my teacher didn't pull the girl out of class along with me and tell her she better not bother me again! You should have seen the look she gave me! From that point on, ALL HER FRIENDS WERE IN ON IT TOO! They all hated me after that! I used to hide in the mornings and skip school because I was so afraid! I failed that grade because of it! I surely feel for the OP's daughter. It's a horrible feeling to live with.

My DS is in Junior High. School's today are not the same as when we went. All bullying is taken very seriously. We have had some students sent to "discipline" schools because of their bullying. Never to return :0 I know our principle listens,
we even have a bullying hot line.

I hope that the 9 out of 10 is wrong...... Because what a horrible state the world would be in if it is true... I would like to think the ones on the news are the ones that don't speak up that the bullying is taking place out of fear. Which is clearly not the case here. Kathryn went to her mom for help.

Sorry for the long post, I hope that there is a good resolution for your DD sake. I know it is an upsetting situation for you and her. Whatever you decide to do.......good thoughts coming your way
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I'm in the talk to the headmaster/principal about the harrassment in the halls. Not cool at all. And something that needs to be addressed BEFORE it escalates. You don't want your daughter getting suspended for fighting the last week of school....

Maybe suggest the paid parking spots as well. Budgets are tight, they might think its a good idea and problem solved. We had paid & assigned spots when I was in school, and it worked well. Seniors and people living more than 8 miles from a bus stop got first dibs, then juniors and if any were left sophmores. I always got a spot because I lived in the middle of nowhere...:P
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I think there is alot of speculation going on in regard to the bullying. Honestly I think getting parents involved and going to the administration is either going to escalate the problem or solve nothing...but if the girl finds out she had her mom tell on her is only going to make the problem worse. Unfortunately I think the OPs daughter needs to find an even better parking spot elsewhere and stop dealing with this girl all together. If she can see she is upsetting her by following her around school she is going to be an ongoing target...but as others have said chances are they will all move on over the summer and have other things to focus on when school goes back in the fall.
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I would talk to the principal. She is basically "bulling" your daughter. I would take care of it now.......so there is no problems next year. Your daughter tried to handle it diplomatically.........but now........ Mom needs to get involved, in my opinion. I wouldn't take a chance if she was my daughter.
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