What do you say to family who discourage you about Disney when you are trying to plan and be excited? - Page 2 - PassPorter - A Community of Walt Disney World, Disneyland, Disney Cruise Line, and General Travel Forums
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I have this issue sometimes and more so when I travel solo (waiting for someone else willing to go and I'd never go anywhere) but I've learned that Disney is worth it and to just enjoy places like this where everyone is excited you're going to WDW and wishes they could join you - I know I do.
I've learnt not to discuss planning with some friends. If they cannot say something nice, they should keep their mouth shut! I don't tell them where to vacation, so I don't think they should tell me I've been there already too many times.
When someone does say something I just tell them they are jealous. They go real quiet then!
Luckily, I don't have this problem. However, I do tend to take the wind out of the non-Disney sail by freely admitting to being a Mickey loving Disney addict (actually abbreviated that in to an email address that I use for anything Disney related). I follow that admission up with the fact that I think there should be a couple of 12 step type programs for folks like me & that they could have the Seven Dwarves program for those just starting on a Disney addiction& the 101 Dalmations program for me & those like me who are in full blown, beyond all hope addiction. After that I make the comments that even if those programs existed I wouldn't want the help & that in my opinion Disney is a pretty harmless addiction. If that doesn't work I'll just say something like 'well, than aren't you glad you're not going with me' or even better 'and you care about my vacation destination, why?' which usually ends the conversation. Of course, it's fairly easy for me to do this because I honestly don't care what people think of me. There are people (family & close friends) whose opinions matter to me but at the beginning & end of the day I'm the one that has to be able to look myself in the mirror & like the person I see & that's what's the most important.
I just had a friend make a serious dig on FB "I am just going to ask the question. What is up with people being in love with Disney characters, or movies, or the crap they charge an arm and a leg for, or even paying out the nose to go to their lands or worlds? I get it if you are like seven or even ten but as grown adults with lives? What gives? Am I missing something? Yes, some of them are cute, but really?"
Since I am the only friend she has who has been flooding their feed with Disney, I know she meant me. So I replied and said "I'm not in LOVE with it but I certainly enjoy it a lot. It's my place to go escape from the real world...when the real world is too much. I would go every year if I could, it's a really awesome place to go. for others, it's not."
she hasn't responded yet but it irritated me. It's money I have earned and set aside for this. It's a place i REALLY enjoy going to and I KNOW that many have never gone and I'm spoiled by having gone even 5 times, let alone once or twice but it's where I like to go. so, there!
I've had this problem. What I have done is not tell them about specific plans. If they ask me I'll just tell them I'm going to WDW on x date and that's about it. I hate it when people give their opinions about stuff like that. I tend to just brush it off.
I really don't feel anyone other than the people who are travelling with me are entitled to an opinion about my vacations. If anyone even looks like they are about to say "you're going again??" I head it off with "I am so lucky we found something that works for our family. We have never had a bad vacation there."
The nay-sayers in my circle have learned over the years to not to mock my families love for Disney vacations. Last time someone said something negative to me about our trips walked away feeling about two inches tall. I responded to their nasty remark with "I'm sorry you don't find family time more important than your new Coach bags, weekly massages, and the Lexus in your garage... but I'm sure your kids are happy for you and will always have fond memories of your new bling for many years to come!" I said it with a smile.
The nay-sayers in my circle have learned over the years to not to mock my families love for Disney vacations. Last time someone said something negative to me about our trips walked away feeling about two inches tall. I responded to their nasty remark with "I'm sorry you don't find family time more important than your new Coach bags, weekly massages, and the Lexus in your garage... but I'm sure your kids are happy for you and will always have fond memories of your new bling for many years to come!" I said it with a smile.
I get "y'all must really like Disney! Does Mike (my DH) like it too?" Yes we do. Even my husband! We love having family trips. Our DD is 21 and she loves it too. Who knows when she might have a family of her own if they will want to go with us. Enjoy it while it lasts!
I feel sorry for those that don't "get" it. They don't know what they are missing!
It's even worse for those of us without kids who still love to go to Disney. I think most of my coworkers have just gotten use to my Disney trips and don't say much anymore. My family use to wonder why we go so often but now they all want to go with us!
How well do I know this problem? :-) I've gotten to the point of just not telling friends and family anymore. My husband and I would rather go to Disney than anywhere else. It's magical, relaxing, loving, it's where we fit "in". I also get the "must be nice to afford a vacation" stuff too. So, I just don't say anything anymore. It's better that way. Of course, my family doesn't support me in anything I do, so I don't expect anything else lol Do what's important to you and don't worry about anyone else.
I have a nephew and a nephew-in-law who always make negative comments about our twice-yearly trips to Disney. DH and I travel often - two trips to Europe this past summer. I am so tired of their comments. I keep quiet to avoid unnecessary stress at family gatherings.
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Well, I went that route too. But I simply commented.... "Geez, aren't you a little ray of sunshine! We'd rather make family memories than regrets." They haven't given me static since. LOL
I don't know why people care where anyone goes on vacation. And if they don't like the answer than don't ask the question.
I have a brother that goes away to Cancun and similar places every year because he likes to scuba and he and his wife both love it. I would never ask him why they are going there again. If you like it go.