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Old 10-04-2010, 12:56 PM   #166
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Beautiful pictures! But I agree, I would hate to be rushed along if it was that hot!
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That Grumpy character looks pretty sinister, leaning against that wall! That street does look steep! Great views from the terrace!
It's one of my favourite shots of him actually!
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Sorry about the wine tasting - but the church sounds great.
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Beautiful views of the town! I don't think I would enjoy hiking around in that heat either
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Sunday 5 September – part eight: walking over dead bodies

We were then down in the square that we had looked down on from the terrace above.


Another one trying to stay out of the shade!

Fortunately, with keys in hand, Christina took us through a secret entrance – seriously secret, as she had to tell one couple with a dog that they couldn’t come in, it was reserved for groups only, then she opened up the door to the underground church.



We headed in and I did spot a sign that said no photography at all, but as everyone else was taking photos, I decided to snap away as well, although not using flash. As a result, we both got quite a few photos, before Christina confirmed that photography wasn’t allowed.



This was thought to be an underground church, as when they discovered it originally, it had altars in it, but it was only recently, when there started to be problems with the construction of the church and some of the roof started to fall in. They had to excavate the foundations to shore up the pillars and it was at this point that they discovered bodies and then realised that its real original function had been as a graveyard. It was a bit spooky to realise that you were walking over lots of dead bodies...



It was so lovely and cool in there that it was a shame when we had to head outside into the blistering heat again. We were told we then had time at leisure and it turned out that it was about 40 minutes, which was a pleasant surprise, as I had assumed that we’d be part of a group the whole time.

We headed back up the steep cobbled slope, struggling more with the walk up, as it was tough on the feet, but in a very different way to on the way down! On the way down, a woman had been offering tastes of macaroons and that’s something I love, as my gran had always had them when I was a kid. I decided to go into the shop and we bought ourselves five big macaroons for €10 ($13), most of which we then ate over the next half hour or so.



We wandered around and were lucky enough to find the cloisters, which originally date from the Roman era, although they were rebuilt at a later stage.



Next: would you like to serve us sometime today?
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Uh next episode sounds ominous . . . perhaps I should have been there!
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It was nice that they waited till you were in amongst all the dead bodies to tell you it was a graveyard!
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Very interesting about the underground church, but very spooky too. I like those type of historic tidbits though.
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Wow, that would be really spooky! Neat story though. Glad you some some free time to wander around!
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All caught up - great photos - sorry the wine wasn't to your liking.
I wonder waht other things that underground church was used for. hmmmm
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