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There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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09-13-2005, 08:02 PM
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Guide since 2003
Join Date: Aug 2001
Location: West Mifflin, PA
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uneasy feeling
WARNING LONG VENT & ADVICE REQUEST..
As some of you may recall I was VERY hesitant letting Jamie go on a 6th grade school trip to Washington DC last year .. it was NOT school sponsored but was sponsored by a teacher.
Well, we did let Jamie go & he had a great time except for NOT buying any of his family souveniers ( did you know all items in DC cost $30???.. according to Jamie that is!! ) He still talks about seeing the president, going to Arlington cemetary etc..
Jim & I have a VERY open relationship with our kids & they usually are very open & tell us everything.. ( We are proud to say all 3 are star students & very respectful kids ) Anyway, Jamie came home from school about 2 weeks after the trip & told me that he heard Tyler & Kristi were kissing in one of the hotel rooms at the DC trip.. I told him to not believe rumours but I was concerned.. I asked several other parents & their kids too had heard that rumor.. I was upset but still didn't have confirmation until a few days later one of the girls that roomed with Kristi told me & her Mom that indeed they WERE kissing.. I was ANGRY then but I didn't know what to do AFTER the fact & I knew several parents confronted the teachers who went on the trip & they assured them it was handled...
During the last month of School Jamie came home with MORE news from the famous DC trip.. rumor has it Tyler wasn't only kissing he ordered Pornography on the TV in the room.. I find this hard to believe as I would think the hotel would be able to put some kind of block on the TV & wouldn't he need a Credit card??
Fast forward to yesterday, Brendan is now in 6th grade & brings home the paper for the DC trip... He really really wants to go & I would like for him to go.. but I would like to confront the teacher/sponsor about what happened last year & see what his response is.. do you think I should??? He's kind of gruff & hard-nosed & I think if I bring up the kissing he will deny it happened & make me angry..
BUT.. today Brendan comes home from school & tells me that Mr K ( the sponsor) told the kids that if anyone acted up on the DC trip he would leave them there.. I know he is just trying to put fear in the kids to behave but Bren takes things literally & is now a little upset I assured him that Mr K would be in lots of trouble if he did leave ANYONE even tho it's not school sponsored the school is aware of it & allows him to hold the parent meetings in the school (meeting is tomorrow)
Now what do I do??? Bren really wants to go & I know his group of friends are all great kids AND we did let Jamie go last year but I'm worried of the lack of supervision last year..
thanks for letting me vent a little...
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09-13-2005, 08:20 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: Ottawa, Ontario
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Re: uneasy feeling
You could bring up your concerns at the parent meeting. Maybe no one thought to put a lock on the movie purchasing in the kids rooms.
Would you or your DH be able to be a chaperone on this trip?
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09-13-2005, 08:53 PM
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Faith, Trust, Pixie Dust
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Connecticut
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Re: uneasy feeling
I would suggest being a chaperone also. I have on MANY trips.
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09-13-2005, 10:02 PM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Dreaming of the Future
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Re: uneasy feeling
I would try and chaparone on the trip and discuss your concerns at the meeting. that things work out!
Amy
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09-13-2005, 10:06 PM
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Community Rank: Scout
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Texas
Posts: 4,748
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Re: uneasy feeling
I think it would be a shame to not let him go, but at the same time I can certainly understand your concerns! Before I had Josh I would have thought worrying about something like that was just plain silly, but now I can't imagine sending him off on a trip like that even though I know one day I will have to. I agree with the others that perhaps you can check on being a chaperone. If not, I think it is definitely something I would discuss at a parent meeting. I know my 7th grade S.S. teacher took a group to DC and there were several parent meetings prior to leaving to discuss how everything would be handled. If this is something your sons teacher does I think it would be a great opportunity to bring it up. I think I would have a hard time turning my child loose if I didn't know that all my concerns had been answered.
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09-14-2005, 07:18 AM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: May 2005
Location: Michigan
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Re: uneasy feeling
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09-14-2005, 08:10 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Re: uneasy feeling
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You could bring up your concerns at the parent meeting. Maybe no one thought to put a lock on the movie purchasing in the kids rooms.
Would you or your DH be able to be a chaperone on this trip?
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My thoughts exactly. And I'd be surprised if Tyler had acutally ordered up porn on the hotel TV. It's rather expensive and definitly would have shown up on the hotel bill. And most hotels would turn off that feature for any room that a child is in. Good luck with your decision.
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09-14-2005, 09:28 AM
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Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Philadelphia
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Re: uneasy feeling
If you are concerned about the lack of supervision and are unable to chaperone, you shouldn't send him.
I would do the same thing if it were my kids.
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09-14-2005, 10:55 AM
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Community Rank: Legend Extraordinaire
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Ohio Football Hall Of Fame
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Re: uneasy feeling
I agree with the others on bringing up the concerns and possibly gling on the trip if it's possible. Good luck Ann and let us know what happens.
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09-14-2005, 11:53 AM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Indiana , USA
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Re: uneasy feeling
I wouldn't worry so much. Any time you get kids together, there are bound to be a few who do things that they wouldn't ordinarily do, just to show off. The most you can do is try to make sure that your son is not one of them.
The thing to do, though is talk to your son. Make sure he knows what is and is not acceptable behavior. Let him know that he also needs to report any misbehavior to the chaperones. (most kids won't though, they don't want to be known as snitches)
When my daughters go on trips with their school, the understanding is that if a child mis-behaves, the parents will be called and they are responsible for coming and getting that child, that day. When the kids went to Europe in 5th grade, that was a huge threat!
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09-14-2005, 12:06 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Chapel Hill, NC USA
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Re: uneasy feeling
If it were my child, I'd be chaperoning the trip. I always go on their trips that take them any distance away from our school district. They actually like it that I do that (at least for now). Is that an option for you?
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09-14-2005, 12:28 PM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Hawai\'i
Posts: 2,862
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Re: uneasy feeling
Another vote for chaperoning!!! (if it's possible)
Good luck, Ann!
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09-14-2005, 12:48 PM
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Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Northern NV
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Re: uneasy feeling
Chaperoning would be my first choice. If that's not an option, I would definately speak with the teacher about your concerns. If he can't put your mind at ease, your son shouldn't go. One of the hardest things I've ever done is allow Zoie to go to Australia and New Zealand this past summer (She'd just completed sixth grade.). I was able to send her in good conscience because the trip's leaders answered everyone of my silly and not so silly questions and had a system in place for every type of thing you can imagine. Even romance...and yes they even discussed pornography as well, in hotels, the channels were not available to rooms housing the delegates. If the chaperone of this trip doesn't have a routine in place for such things, I'd be concerned. The kids were also given very clear guidelines as to their behavior. And I'd want to know what would have to happen for a child to be sent home from the trip...I've chaperoned our school's sixth grade trip out of state, and it's a wonderful way to bond with your child and enjoy kids this age. They are so much fun!
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