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There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
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Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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07-02-2004, 04:39 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: UK
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Re: Sister trouble at 3.00am - Updated
I went downstairs and sat in the Lounge and waited and waited for them to arrive, it got to 5.45am and I was nearly having a meltdown I was so worried. I kept trying to ring Laura's Mobile and send her text messages but there was no answer.
I went upstairs and woke Allan up again, poor guy he was so shattered that he had drifted off to sleep and voiced my concerns to him. He rang Laura's BF and woke him up, they had gone to his house and not rung me and just gone to bed. I was livid but really held my temper and spoke to Laura and asked if she was alright. She said she was really tired and she would ask her BF to bring her round in the afternoon so we could talk.
It is now 9.30pm, Laura has not come round or called me, I have kept calling her mobile again with no answer. My poor Mum is beside herself with worry. Laura does worry her alot, she often stays out all night and doesn't ring Mum to let her know where she is. Mum worries as she drinks a lot and is an Insulin Dependant Diabetic and does not wear any ID, so poor Mum often has visions of her in a gutter collapsed somewhere.
It turns out that the row was about Laura's BF staying the night, he is a new BF, Laura has been with him just over a month and my Mum does not think it is appropriate that he stays the night. She said the same thing to me when I started dating Allan, so she has not treated either of us any differently. I tend to agree with my Mum it is her house and she can decide on the rules but Laura tells my Mum that she is 20 years old and that she is treating her like a child.
Laura has been going off the rails the last couple of months, she got sacked from her job as she never turned up on time and one day she just left the office at 4.00pm because she felt like it and wasn't actually due to finish until 6.00pm. She goes out every night and drinks and stays out all night. She had a holiday booked to Tenerife and didn't really have the Money to go but she really wanted to go with her friends she told my parents that she had saved some money but not enough so they gave her some spending money to enable her to go. Three days before she was due to come home, I got a phone call from her saying that she had run out of money and she wanted Mum and Dad to put some money in her bank account. They put £200.00 in because they know she has to eat regularly because of her diabetes or she will collapse.
I am at the end of my tether and I know my poor Mum and Dad are as well, we just don't know what to do she is the cause of so much heartache at the moment. I have offered to take her to the Doctors as I think she may be suffering from depression but she refuses.
Does anyone have any advice for us, so sorry about the long post, it helps sometimes to get things off your chest doesn't it?
Karen
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07-02-2004, 05:34 PM
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Community Rank: Scout
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Re: Sister trouble at 3.00am - Updated
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07-02-2004, 06:35 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
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Location: Niagara Falls
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Re: Sister trouble at 3.00am - Updated
I hope things blow over soon!
Let us all know if you need anything!
American Chum,
Jennifer
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07-02-2004, 08:30 PM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Michigan's Upper Peninsula
Posts: 27,691
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Re: Sister trouble at 3.00am - Updated
Oh, my gosh, Karen. Yes, it does help to get things off of your chest. I hope everything turns out for the best with her.
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07-02-2004, 10:30 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
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Location: Near a Tower of Terror at the moment...
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Re: Sister trouble at 3.00am - Updated
Karen,
I am so sorry to hear you are going through all this. It must be very difficult for you! I do have some advice for you (though you may not like it). There is a book called "Boundaries" that I don't know if you can get or not. It is a wonderful book that can help you (and your parents) establish some boundaries for Laura. As you say, she is 20 years old, she is an adult and needs to make her own decisions (alcohol, healthcare, work), BUT she also has to abide by the decisions that your parents make (no BF staying over, etc) If she can't handle it, then she has to move out. I know that sounds harsh, but it really is the loving thing to do. She sounds as though she is very dependent still and your parents are enabling her (I *hate* that term, but it works). She seems to be very self-destructive and abusive (lying about money, drinking, refusing to wear medic-alert, not calling to let you know she's not coming is disrespectful) and it will only continue until she attends the "School of Hard Knocks". There are those who will think that I am uncaring and just downright mean, but I have learned dealing with members of my own family that there are times that you have to draw a line.
She may be bipolar from the sounds of things, too. My 16yo DD is a rapid-cycling bipolar type 2, which means she can go from happy-as-a-lark to I HATE YOU in seconds, and the type 2 basically means that she doesn't go completely off the deep end, her pendulum doesn't swing quite as far. Bipolars tend to "tantrum" or rage on one end and purposely do things to harm themselves, but that give them a "buzz" or a "high" on the other end (illicit sex, shopping binges, not taking meds, etc) Our DD actually *likes* not taking her meds (the manic stage is "buzz-y", she says), but when she's off them she's a monster and makes everyone's life a living Hades.
This got much longer than I'd planned, but I want you to know that there is plenty of coming to you and your family from our house and I hope you can get things settled down! (and, if you think what I said is way off base or a crock, that's OK, too, I just hope and pray that it gets better for you! )
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07-03-2004, 03:00 AM
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PassPorter Message Board Manager PassPorter Guide Author
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Re: Sister trouble at 3.00am - Updated
Karen, I have no advice to offer you, but I can only hope that things do improve. I am so sorry to hear how Laura's behaving and how she's treating you all - you must be besides yourself with worry.
I have to say I agree with Dawn - if she's living with your parents, she obeys their rules, otherwise she moves out and from what you say, that's not an option for her. Maybe she needs to be reminded of that. I wish I could be of more help. that things soon improve.
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07-03-2004, 08:57 AM
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Community Rank: Trekker
Join Date: Aug 2001
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Re: Sister trouble at 3.00am - Updated
Karen,
I can offer you good thoughts and prayers that this all works out.
Sending you lots and lots of
Lori
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07-03-2004, 10:09 AM
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Community Rank: Scout
Join Date: Mar 2004
Location: Texas
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Re: Sister trouble at 3.00am - Updated
What a tough situation! I don't have any magic words for you, but I do know this : you can't change your sister - she has to want to make a change on her own. I can only imagine how concerned you and your family must be for her but all you can really do is point her in the right direction. It's her choice whether she chooses to follow it or not. I hope things come together for you quickly.
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07-03-2004, 11:23 AM
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Wannabe Snowbird
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Re: Sister trouble at 3.00am - Updated
Karen, I'm so sorry to hear of all of Laura's antics. I hate to be harsh because I know you love your sister and this is not going to be pleasant to read, but she really does need to grow up.
If she wants to be treated as an adult, she needs to act like one. Maybe she does need to see a doctor to determine why she's suddenly started acting out. One other thing that I hate to suggest is that perhaps she's begun using drugs? That could explain her staying out all night, and her irresponsibility that caused her to be fired from her job. Has she started hanging around with a new group of people?
Here's some more for you and your family, Karen. All this worry cannot be easy.
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07-03-2004, 12:16 PM
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Community Rank: Trailblazer
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Orlando, Fl
Posts: 5,517
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Re: Sister trouble at 3.00am - Updated
Oh Karen. I feel so bad for you! It must be so difficult. I'm sending you a ton of pixie dust!
I also feel bad for your sister. I've been in her shoes when I was younger and it was the worst time of my life. I was about as depressed as one person could be and I didn't care how I treated ANYONE. I was a miserable person to be around. I was so disrespectful and inconsiderate because I just didn't care anymore. I didn't do drugs, but I did drink a lot because it made me feel better, or so I thought.
What turned me around was the support from my parents. As many of you know, I'm VERY close to my parents, but I wasn't always that way. When they confronted me about my behavior, I took it very badly. I nearly destroyed myself and anyone in my path. One night it came to a head and I totally broke down and admitted I just couldn't handle it anymore. I was able to seek therapy and eventually got myself back on the right track. Within a few months, I felt "normal" again. My parents stood by me through everything, even when I was at my ugliest. They didn't let me continue my destructive behavior though. No drinking, no partying, etc. They didn't threaten me, but explained that if I didn't abide by their rules, then I couldn't live with them. I didn't have much choice. I could have moved in with my friends, but even I knew that would just make things worse. I straightened up and grew up quickly.
I think it was all meant to be (even the depression) because I had Alex 1 year later. Had I not sought help and strengthened the bond with my parents, I wouldn't have been a very good mother. I was in a VERY good place to have a child when I did and I'm so thankful that I was given the chance to recover when I did.
Now, most of this might not even relate to your sister, but I do know that she's probably hurting..even if she doesn't admit it. You cannot make her change, but knowing you are there to see her through anything (if you can) might help her. She's obviously self destructing for a reason. When she's ready to get help, she'll be on the path to recovery. The only advice I can offer is to not let her continue her behavior around you or your family...I know that's easier said than done, but that girl definately needs a wake up call.
I hope some of this helps. I'm sorry if I got a little too personal, but I'm prouid of that time in my life where I took control and really proved who I really was. I wasn't that depressed, raging person everyone saw. I was really a kind, considerate, loving person who just needed some help. I hope your sister realizes what she is doing to herself and her family, and wants to seek help. Good luck to you all!!!!
Kelly
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07-04-2004, 04:39 PM
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Magic Happens!
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Re: Sister trouble at 3.00am - Updated
Karen,
I am so sorry that you are going through this. Does she have a medical doctor that she knows and trusts? Perhaps you could speak to him about what she is doing. Alcohol and insulin don't mix at all, and maybe she would listen to a medical professional.
Would she wear a bracelet or a medic alert necklace if you got her one? Beleive me, those little tags are invaluable for both EMS and hospital providers if someone cannot speak for themselves.
It sounds like you are doing all you can right now. She knows you are there if she needs you, but it hurts so much to see someone you love do this to themselves.
Hang in there, we are here for you if you need to talk/vent!
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07-04-2004, 07:08 PM
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Living Seas wannabe
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Re: Sister trouble at 3.00am - Updated
Karen - I hope things improve.
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07-05-2004, 10:44 AM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
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Location: Massachusetts
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Re: Sister trouble at 3.00am - Updated
Karen, I'm so sorry about all this. Here is a ton of for you and your sister.
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07-03-2004, 12:28 PM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Indiana , USA
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Re: Sister trouble at 3.00am - Updated
Karen,
I am so sorry that you and your parents are having to deal with this. I have been on both sides.
I was a fairly "I don't have to follow your rules!" teen (then I had Samantha at 16 and grew up REALLY fast).
And, I have a step-daughter that at 27 is still living that life. We have lost all touch with her. She only calls when she needs $$$$, andfrequently the answer is NO! It hurts that we do not see her, and DH was devastated that she did not call on Father's Day, but life is a lot calmer without her. She owes us quite a lot of money, and has stated that she will not come see us until we agree to disregard that. Well, no visits from her!
My Dad and Mom #2 are dealing with my step-brother, who at 30 is still living more or less at their house (can you believe he turned in his 2 week notice BEFORE securing another position?) He sounds a lot like your sister too. They have never set boundaries or rules with him, and he has milked them for all their retirement funds, and cost them a lot of heartbreak.
I really have no advice, just the assurance that you and your parents are not alone. It will hopefully get better.
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07-03-2004, 02:55 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
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Re: Sister trouble at 3.00am - Updated
Gosh Karen, this sounds like hell! Hope things calm down soon, it's hard watching a sibling being self-destructive.
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