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Old 04-09-2012, 02:08 PM   #1
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I Had an Epiphany!

Okay -nothing really drastic, but you may remember my earlier question about whether to drive or fly to get DH's grandkids for the summer. We know I'm going to have to drive; I don't want DH to use up his vacation time on going to get them and taking them back, so it's up to me to figure it out.

I was crunching numbers again and realized: Our van gets so/so gas mileage. It's also got 123,000 miles on it (still going strong). I also realized; I could RENT a car with better mileage! Looking up car rental, the price is so that I can rent a car with very good gas mileage and come out a tiny bit ahead or break even compared to using our van. PLUS - we don't have the wear and tear on our van.

Pros:
no wear and tear on personal vehicle
good gas mileage
if I play it right - cheaper!!

Cons;
not a car I'm used to (not a big deal, I switch between our 3 all of the time)
smaller car = kids touching each other easier
rental car = no DVD player in car (although we have a portable one)
smaller vehicle on road - I like being up a little, but I'm okay with smaller cars - just not a big fan
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Old 04-09-2012, 02:11 PM   #2
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Great idea but I wasn't sure if one of your dd's was going to go with you to help with the driving. Keep in mind those under 25 can't drive rental cars. I use to rent them on occasion to go to hockey tournaments but I can't now because my dd helps with all the driving to/from the tournaments
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Great idea but I wasn't sure if one of your dd's was going to go with you to help with the driving. Keep in mind those under 25 can't drive rental cars. I use to rent them on occasion to go to hockey tournaments but I can't now because my dd helps with all the driving to/from the tournaments
Kris, DD Lauren is going with me, but she's 14. She's just going to keep me company and to help with the kids on the way back. I could rent one and have DD Kathryn (19 by then) help drive. It costs quite a bit more though, so I won't be doing that. I think she's escaping the invasion of the kids by heading to Vegas or New York for a few days!
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Kris, DD Lauren is going with me, but she's 14. She's just going to keep me company and to help with the kids on the way back. I could rent one and have DD Kathryn (19 by then) help drive. It costs quite a bit more though, so I won't be doing that. I think she's escaping the invasion of the kids by heading to Vegas or New York for a few days!
True it isn't that those under 25 can't drive a rental car it's just that it cost so much it's not worth it to let someone under 25 drive a rental car. Good thinking on Kathryn's part to escape the invasion
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I think renting a car for any long trip is a good idea. If it breaks down, the rental car company replaces it and your not stuck in the middle of no where waiting for parts.

If you seriously want your older daughter to share int he driving, many rental companies are willing to negotiate on younger drivers. My younger DS worked all around the country between ages 22-24 doing field work. He always had a rental and was able to negotiate a reasonable rate that was consistent with what was allowed by the federal government.
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