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So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
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We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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09-24-2003, 04:14 PM
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Community Rank: Scout
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Chicago
Posts: 4,812
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Strike 1, Strike 2, Strike ... UPDATE!
My kids' teachers went on strike today!!! No school and it doesn't look like it will be resolved any time soon.
The teachers want a 30% salary increase over 3 years. They claim their median salary is less than the state average. I don't understand this because our schools are really good and we just passed a referendum. But we have such a population explosion in this area that they had to use the money to build a new intermediate school.
I am torn by this because as a teacher myself, I feel for the teachers, but as a parent I hate to see the kids out of school. Also, I read in the paper they were thinking of making up the time during Christmas!!! I sure hope not. I hope it doesn't interfere with our Disney plans at Thanksgiving!
Maggie
[ 10-14-2003, 09:31 AM: Message edited by: maggieworkman ]
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09-24-2003, 04:52 PM
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Community Rank: Navigator
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Tioga County, PA
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Re: Strike 1, Strike 2, Strike ... UPDATE!
I don't feel teachers should strike. Any time they strike they should be told strike and we hire permant replacements.
Personally I think teachers are overpaid and underworked. No where else to employees get as much time off a year as teachers plus after 10 years they get an entire year off if they want it.
I know I've offened but this is my reason. Our DS has a job working with juveniles who are court ordered into treatment. The employees there work 7-3 and 3-11. The nighshift doesn't require a college degree. They also work weekends and holidays for far less pay then teachers. These people also have college degrees and are paying off loans.
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09-24-2003, 08:57 PM
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Community Rank: Globetrotter
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Corona, New York
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Re: Strike 1, Strike 2, Strike ... UPDATE!
That's quite a dilemma Maggie! I hope it gets resolved soon!
Who wants to go to school at Christmas time!
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09-24-2003, 09:33 PM
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Community Rank: Sightseer
Join Date: Sep 2003
Posts: 96
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Re: Strike 1, Strike 2, Strike ... UPDATE!
I'm a teacher and I believe teachers are overworked and underpaid. Where would anybody be without teachers? On the other hand, I don't believe they should strike. They just hurt the kids.
Have you ever considered taking your kids out of school to go to WDW? My daughter is in 1st grade so its not that much of a problem.
Good luck with everything. The teachers did that where I used to live and it only lasted 1-2 days.
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09-24-2003, 10:42 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Longfellow's "Jewel by the Sea"
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Re: Strike 1, Strike 2, Strike ... UPDATE!
Not a teacher even though I could be, and it's because they are so overworked and underpaid, particularly in my home state. This is such a hard argument because there's no easy answer. I hope things work out smoothly in your district soon. Teachers and children both cannot be underestimated nor compromised.
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09-24-2003, 11:02 PM
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Community Rank: Wayfarer
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Statesboro, Ga
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Re: Strike 1, Strike 2, Strike ... UPDATE!
30% in 3 years...you have got to be kidding...I'd like that raise. I am an RN and I will get a 3% raise. All people feel under worked and overpaid. The most happy people are those that are self employed. My wife is a teacher here in GA, a right to work state. They don't have unions etcc... No strikes here. Hope the situation is resolved though. We passed a 1 penny SPLOST(Special Local Options Sales Tax) here in Bulloch Co. It adds one penny to our staes sales tax, which is being used to build 3 new high schools and a middle school. This will expire in five years or less if the 45 million is collected prior to that. Maybe that would help your area.
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09-24-2003, 11:55 PM
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Community Rank: Adventurer
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Oklahoma
Posts: 507
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Re: Strike 1, Strike 2, Strike ... UPDATE!
I totally agree that teachers are overworked. I don't think that anyone realizes that everytime there is a school activity teachers are used for security, food sales, ticket taking , and every other job no one wants. All this is without extra pay. It is just part of the job . Where we live there is an activity almost every night and I know some teachers that are working day and night 5 days a week. They also have more work and more students than a lot of parents are aware of. I am not a teacher and I have never been one but I notice a lot of things at our schools that could use some changing. Sorry for ranting but I felt it needed to be said. I hope every thing works out for you.No children should ever have to go to school through Christmas break because teachers strike. Lots of pixie dust headed your way from Oklahoma!!!
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09-25-2003, 09:35 AM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: Wisconsin
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Re: Strike 1, Strike 2, Strike ... UPDATE!
I work at a university in the teacher education department. So I see all sorts of things that happen as we prepare our future teachers. I agree that teachers are overworked and underpaid, but I don't think striking is the answer. The only ones who get hurt during a strike are the kids. I think there could be better ways to get the point across without it coming to this (although I don't know what offhand).
I remember when I was in kindergarten the teachers went on strike and we were off for 3 weeks. I'll keep my fingers crossed that they resolve this issue quickly and things get back to normal for you.
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09-27-2003, 11:43 AM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: North Dakota aka frozen wastelands
Posts: 2,025
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Re: Strike 1, Strike 2, Strike ... UPDATE!
Wow, that would be a bummer for the kids eh?
I hope they work this out.
Im try to think of what my life would be like if my husband, who is in the Air Force, got a 30% pay raise over 3 years!LOL!! No, better not to get into that mindset, or I will become discontent w/the 4% yearly cost of living raises and those are something I am so thankful for since when we were eligible for food stamps(didnt use them, but were eligible) the first 10 years we were married. We are not now, so WHOOPIE!!!!!!
I wish our teachers here in ND could get a salary increase. Last year they were the lowest paid teachers in the country.
I think there are some districts where teachers are overpaid and lots where they are underpaid.
There are ALOT of professions that are underpaid commiserate w/what they are asked to perform(like die for total strangers for 20,000 per year)
We may never agree on how much teachers should get paid, or how much they do get paid, but I think we can ALL agree that people like actors and professional athletes get paid WAY TOO MUCH for what they offer AND to top it off, they complain about their MILLIONS not being enough [img]images/icons/confused.gif[/img]
I hope this gets straightened out for your kids sake and I would definately keep your vacation on track. YOU scheduled it around school. Its not YOUR fault that school may be adjusted because of a teachers strike(vs say a natural disaster). You are the parent and YOU get first rights to your children.
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10-02-2003, 05:41 PM
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Community Rank: Scout
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Chicago
Posts: 4,812
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Re: Strike 1, Strike 2, Strike ... UPDATE!
If things weren't bad enough, now our Garbage Collectors have gone on strike!!! Hopefully, the kids don't produce too much garbage while they are home from school due to the school strike [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img] .
No new news on the teachers strike. The teachers and the school board have met ONCE since they went on strike last Tuesday. No new talks are scheduled.
Maggie
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10-14-2003, 09:31 AM
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Community Rank: Scout
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Chicago
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Re: Strike 1, Strike 2, Strike ... UPDATE!
Well, the STRIKE IS OVER and the kids went back to school today. Yay! They have been out since September 24 - 10 days of missed school. I am not sure how they are going to make that up. I believe we will get a note sent home with the kids today discussing it.
The teachers were holding firm for a 30% raise over 3 years, and although the contract is "undisclosed" for now, one news report said that they were getting a 9% raise this year and 7% next year.
Luckily I had my sister here to watch the girls while the strike was on. I just feel so bad for all the other parents who were struggling to find babysitters for their kids during this time.
Back to life as normal...
Maggie
p.s. the garbage strike is over too. One and 1/2 weeks without garbage pickup!
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10-14-2003, 09:40 AM
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Recovering VMK Addict!
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Thornton, CO
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Posts: 13,087
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Re: Strike 1, Strike 2, Strike ... UPDATE!
Maggie, I was wondering this morning how the strike was going.
Glad to see it is settled and things can attempt to return to normal.
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