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Old 06-28-2002, 10:56 AM   #1
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Hi Jean. My new husband ( as of Sept.8 ) and I are taking a belated honeymoon to Disney the first of December. We are also taking along our 4 children, (ahh, romantic huh? lol ) and staying from December 1st to December 19th. It is gonna be our last hooray with the oldest 2 we think ( 15 and 13) before they abandon us and would rather stay home with their friends [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] . I have reserved us 2 connecting rooms at the all-star movies with my Disney Club discount and got a rate of $2483.64. We are planning on getting the annual passes and were wondering if you thought we could get a better rate that way? I was also wondering if you thought we might get a good rate with the codes that come out every so often? I would be willing to stay at any of the all-stars as long as we get 2 rooms ( we'd go nuts that close to each other for that many days, lol [img]graemlins/achoo.gif[/img] ) When do you think the codes for that time would come out? Is it easy to change reservations? Hope I didnt ramble too much and oh, the littlest ones will be 4 and 1 when we go, so we thought 2 rooms would be better than to go to a moderate resort or bigger and be on top of each other. Thanks so much, Tamara [img]graemlins/love.gif[/img]
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Old 06-28-2002, 11:26 AM   #2
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I am hoping that discounts will be announced for October, November and December within a month. You are wise to get AP's, while the discounts are not huge at the All Stars, just the fact that you have two rooms for that length of stay could save you 104.76 [assuming they offer All Stars for 59.00 per night.] Keep in mind though that All Star Movies is not always included in the discounts, only Music and Sports. So you may have the best deal with your Disney Club rate. AP rates usually come out first and then code rates come out after.
Your problem is you have booked through Disney Club which is an entirely different system than CRO which will have the bigger discounts. To take advantage of any big discounts, you will have to cancel the Disney Club and rebook through CRO. Do you have AAA?

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Old 06-28-2002, 04:06 PM   #3
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[img]graemlins/wavin.gif[/img] Hi again Jean, lol. I thought when you booked you booked with Disney,period. This is just confusing to me, lol. We usually do a package but I thought with this amount of time we would be there, it would be cheaper for us to do it seperately and use the discounts as we could. I do have AAA and the DC like I used. I want to check the Annual Pass rates and am hoping for a good code deal. I got the rooms for $69 a night with the DC discount. I dont mind cancelling and rebooking at all if it saves us money. I booked because of the discount and the limited amount of rooms you can get with that discount. Do you think I would save more with the AP discount? I dont mind which all-stars we stay at, we won't be in the rooms that much, whichever I can get the better room deals with so we have more money to eat [img]graemlins/yuma.gif[/img] and buy things with [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img] . Thanks so much for the help. I really appreciate it !!

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Old 06-28-2002, 04:30 PM   #4
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Yes, there are two separate systems for Disney. One is WDW Travel, which do packages and can include air. The other is CRO [Central reservations,] which is room only,they cannot however add the air, but they can add passes, UPH. Each has there own rules, but there are less restrictions with CRO and the bigger discounts will come out of CRO.
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