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As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.
We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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11-03-2005, 07:43 PM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter 
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: DC
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 2,112
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anothe pin question
why is Sedesma bad? many listings i see say "not Sedesma" what is the diference between the regular or Sedesma and can u trade Sedesma pins with cast members at the parks? TIA
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11-03-2005, 08:28 PM
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Dopey's biggest fan!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: China Spring, TX
Concierge Level: 9
Posts: 26,975
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Re: anothe pin question
As far as I understand, the only pins you can trade with CM's at the parks (and also with most serious pin traders) are pins that say "Disney" on the back.
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11-04-2005, 10:00 AM
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Community Rank: Adventurer 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Flower Mound, TX
Posts: 931
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Re: anothe pin question
Sedesma is not made by Disney, so Cast Members can't trade for them. I think there are some other pin makers out there that do Disney stuff too. You can usually tell that they look different. But all Disney pins have the Disney trademark on the back and also where it was made (China, etc.)
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11-04-2005, 05:47 PM
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Community Rank: Globetrotter 
Join Date: Mar 2005
Posts: 3,651
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Re: anothe pin question
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Sedesma is not made by Disney, so Cast Members can't trade for them.
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I had read this online before our trip in July, so I was prepared. I made sure the lot I got off ebay was official Disney pins. However, ...
One day, trading at Epcot I traded for an Owl pin. The Owl pin turned out to be a cheapo. Not Sedesma, but very cheap. You could tell because it was so lightweight. I didn't say anything to the cast member, I just kept the pin and planned to trade it away if another cast member would accept it.
So later that day at Magic Kingdom, I traded it for a Woody pin. But I ended up with the same deal, this time the Woody pin was Sedesma. I kept this one, though, because my son loves Toy Story and he isn't old enough to know the difference between pin manufacturers.
So, just be aware that some cast members do have the cheap pins, and don't really look that closely at what you're offering them in a trade. If you don't want one, make sure you inspect it before you agree to keep it after your trade.
Happy trading and/or collecting!
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11-04-2005, 05:57 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: nyc
Posts: 9,580
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Re: anothe pin question
what's really strange is i read the disney's etiquette for pin trading on disneypins.com and they don't actually explicitly say it has to be a disney pin. only that the image represents disney or its park in some fashion
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11-04-2005, 07:58 PM
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Community Rank: Adventurer
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Flower Mound, TX
Posts: 931
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Re: anothe pin question
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what's really strange is i read the disney's etiquette for pin trading on disneypins.com and they don't actually explicitly say it has to be a disney pin. only that the image represents disney or its park in some fashion
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that's probably right. I just can't see a CM telling some kid he can't trade pins because it isn't real "Disney". I wouldn't want to have the lookalikes myself though, you can tell the difference in quality.
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