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Old 04-01-2017, 05:12 AM   #1
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Buying one time points when you're short

Hi folks.

We have just bought our points and will be booking for our first DVC holiday at our 11 month window soon. We are a few points short, and want to pay for the extra few. Can we do that at the time of booking, and hence get the whole holiday booked at 11 months, or do we have to wait for 7 months to add a final day?

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Interesting. I didn't know either, but here's the official DVC word on that:

One-time-use points may be used for Disney Vacation Club accommodations in the 7-month booking window. One-time-use points may not be used for Home Resort Priority....The purchase just needs to occur at the time you're making the reservation that requires them.

Huh. I didn't know this. I thought you could simply buy a few when booking your home resort at 11-7 months out.

Makes sense, I presume, that the home resort booking advantage goes first to those with sufficient points.
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you definitely have to wait. If you really want to do it at 11 months - when you need to get with another owner and rent from them,

otherwise you can rent an entire day from one of the rental sites (I think)

what are you trying to get?
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I take it borrowing isn't an option for those few extra points you need?
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you definitely have to wait. If you really want to do it at 11 months - when you need to get with another owner and rent from them,

otherwise you can rent an entire day from one of the rental sites (I think)
Maybe I don't understand how this would be an advantage...

Would it be less expensive than buying a few points to add to however many you had for booking one more night? I don't see why renting the whole night makes sense unless, I suppose, you banked your remaining points, planning to use them next year. Definitely wouldn't work if you must bank-use-borrow to get the stay you want for your next trip.

Wouldn't that mess you up booking ADR's for the rented night? The owner has to do that for you as renter, right?

Unless I'm not understanding, this seems much less convenient and workable than merely buying one-time points.
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It is possible to book with points at 11 months only at the resort where the points are owned. One-time use points are not owned at any specific resort, so they can't be used for a booking more than 7 months in advance.

So, someone who does not own enough points on his own to book the stay he wants 11 months in advance would need to rent those points from someone else who owns at that resort. This can be done directly from an owner or by working with a rental site that works with the owner.

An owner without enough points can also borrow from the following year's points, as Chezp mentioned.

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Unless I'm not understanding, this seems much less convenient and workable than merely buying one-time points.
one owner can transfer his points to your account.

one time points are like MelissaL says you have to wait 7 months not the 11 months.
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Lemme see if I've got this...

Let's say you want a studio at BWV, your home resort, during FWF.

You are points-poor having just bought into DVC and haven't quite enough points even with borrowing to add that extra night.

Let's say you need fewer than 6 points.

It makes sense in this case, needing that 11 mo. advantage as fast as studios book up, to rent those few points. Right?

Do owners commonly rent out that few points? Wouldn't you have to shop around to find a deal for that few, or does the broker do that for you? We've never rented points, so I clearly don't know.
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one owner can transfer his points to your account.
Ohhhhh, okay, thanks for clarifying that. I've heard you can transfer points but didn't know what that involved.

We're very newbie to DVC. Just closed on our main contract a couple months ago.
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Thanks for the thoughts. We've banked this year, and are using 2019 as well as our 2018 allowance and are just short. Is it worth booking at 11 months out for all bar the one day and adding on 1 day at 7 months? I don't know how popular Polynesian studios are
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I just checked and found a full week in a standard view Poly studio in late July, so there may be something available if you wait until 7 months unless you're planning a stay near a major holiday.

I'm not sure we'd want to take our chances at 7 mo. despite being in the U.S. We prefer to be certain we can get what we want well in advance because we have very little date flexibility.
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Thanks for the thoughts. We've banked this year, and are using 2019 as well as our 2018 allowance and are just short. Is it worth booking at 11 months out for all bar the one day and adding on 1 day at 7 months? I don't know how popular Polynesian studios are
That would be what I'd do. Then you know you have all the nights secured except one. If you have to move out for one night, it's a real pain, but honestly, it's not the end of the world, especially if you can get in somewhere like Bay Lake Tower or the Grand Floridian. I would think if you're online on the day seven month bookings open, you should be fine.
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Thank you. I think that's what we'll do. If we have to go to another resort then we have the joys of trying something new
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Thank you. I think that's what we'll do. If we have to go to another resort then we have the joys of trying something new
Definitely the right way to look at it - if you're positive about the worst than can happen, then hopefully it won't happen!
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