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I am in charge of planning for our vacation with friends in December. I was originally thinking POR would be the best choice of resorts, mainly for the location. Our friends have a son who will have just turned 4 shortly before our trip, and I figured we would be centrally located by staying at POR. Now I am second guessing myself. We have stayed at POR and CBR in the past and really enjoyed them both. I don't remember POR being a kid friendly as CBR. I'm afraid that CBR will be too overwhelming for them. My kids are asking to stay at DAAR since we have not ever stayed there. I'm looking for reviews for this resort. How is the transportation service? Will this be an overwhelming resort? We would get two rooms as there are 8 of us total. Is the location of the Little Mermaid rooms close to the food court and the busses? Overall thoughts on these three resorts with a 4 year old. My kids wil be 16 and have done the parks multiple times, and completely know what to expect.
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How many beds do you need? Long before 16 my kids were not into sharing and we would get two rooms (or a villa) for our family of 5.
I am not sure what you mean by overwhelming. I have never stayed value but I think all the moderates I've stayed at (all but POR) and deluxes were not overwheming even if they were large.
For out trip last April/May, a one bedroom was cheaper than two rooms and had a king, double and single bed, Fine for 4 adults and an infant.
Haven't stayed at any of these but AoA frequently is reviewed as very appealing to kids, especially younger ones, whereas POR and CBR aren't nearly as "Disney" and are said to have less kid appeal. Dave's Your First Visit site, the one we use to help decide where to stay when wanting to try a different resort, highly recommends AoA for kid appeal, I recall.
Quite a lot may depend upon how important being near any given park may be to both families. I can't advise regarding bus service or location advantages for any of those, but someone else will happen along who can, I'm sure.
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Just as an FYI, AoA is the common abbreviation for Art of Animation. I didn't know what you meant by DAAR until you mentioned the Little Mermaid rooms and realized you were abbreviating the full name of Disney's Art of Animation Resort.
We've stayed at POFQ as a family of 4 with the youngest in a pack-n-play and at CBR when we were still 3. We love POFQ and stayed there the last two trips, haven't stayed at POR or AoA. Now it's myself and DH, along with DS (16) and DD (4). For our upcoming trip in August we decided to go back to CBR. We love this resort too so the themeing wasn't a big deal. Here's our thoughts on why we chose CBR:
Location: We love the location. Very close to EP and DHS. No boat ride to Disney Springs but oh well. I'd say it's virtually equal to POR/POFQ as far as location goes.
Food Court: CBR has a large food court with lots of options - easy to find something for everyone.
Pool: CBR has an awesome pool. There is a dedicated kids area that is fantastic. Perfect for a 4 year old. Plus the regular pool has two slides which DS will think is great all with a pirate theme. Time it right and you can see part of Illuminations from the pool.
Pull down bed: This was huge for us. In fact it's already noted as our number one priority as a room request. Because DS will be 16 and DD turned 4, we really need that pull down murphy bed. Having the kids share just doesn't seem right at this age and DS doesn't want to share a bed with DH. Having that small extra bed for the 4 year old is a perfect solution. POR has them as well but we're not really fans of the Alligator Bayou theme.
POR is our fav moderate resort. We love the mansion section and request to be near a foot bridge.
They also have all queen beds.
I've only visited AoA, for a look around. Haven't stayed there but the Mermaid section is furthest away from main building and transportation. Rooms are smaller, and beds are double, not queen.
It's Disney, I think all resorts are kid friendly.
It's Disney, I think all resorts are kid friendly.
We must have different understandings, Sue.
I certainly agree every resort is kid friendly which to me means how well kids will be treated and feel welcome there.
Kid appeal means to me which resorts would kids most enjoy and want to stay at. For me (thinking like a kid since I haven't any), AoA would probably be tops, the various AllStars next among the less expensive places, and PopC ranking with those depending upon interests. Definitely BC/YC (Stormalong Bay) and maybe BWI for pool appeal despite some thinking the clown slide at BWI is scary-looking. WL also has a great main pool and on the whole seemed to be fun for the kids I saw there.
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I certainly agree every resort is kid friendly which to me means how well kids will be treated and feel welcome there.
Kid appeal means to me which resorts would kids most enjoy and want to stay at. For me (thinking like a kid since I haven't any), AoA would probably be tops, the various AllStars next among the less expensive places, and PopC ranking with those depending upon interests. Definitely BC/YC (Stormalong Bay) and maybe BWI for pool appeal despite some thinking the clown slide at BWI is scary-looking. WL also has a great main pool and on the whole seemed to be fun for the kids I saw there.
Dot, I was thinking along the lines of POR having pool party, camp fire, movies, fishing hole, boat ride to DTD, carriage rides and a fun evening entertainer. Plus the fact that there are also 16 yr old teens, and parents that may be more comfy in a queen bed and have a little more room. So to me while POR doesn't have the giant icons, it does have a lot going for it, for everyone.
I haven't stayed in those Little Mermaid rooms, but I have visited AoA a few times, and I can assure you the LM section is pretty far from the hub of the resort. I have been told that you can cut some steps off your walk if you cross the parking lot after getting off the bus (and vice versa), but I think that takes away from the enjoyment of the public areas of the resort. If kid appeal is on top of your list, you won't find more than at AoA.
My kids loved POR We stayed in the standard room with the trundle bed My daughter called it her bed When we went back for our next visit I booked the Royal Room for her because her favorite Princess is Tiana and she was mad at me because she did not have her own bed! It was too funny