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Can anyone tell me where is the best plase to have a room on the Fantasy. I am hearing that the ends may not be the best plase to be as far as feeling the motion. Is it worth it to upgrade to a room towards the middle. Thanks for all your help. Happy sailing. :-)
Here is my story: on the last night of our Fantasy Eastern in November, the sea got a little rough on the last night. We were on deck 7, between the mid and act elevators. We heard some plastic-y squeaking noises, but it didn't interrupt my sleep. A girl in my Facebook group later posted that she woke up her husband, in tears, at 1:00 am, thinking they were going to die. She was on deck 9, four cabins from the very front.
I do think location matters, if you're prone to seasickness, but I must also tell you I was in that girl's room (but starboard, where she was port) on a previous Dream cruise, and the weather was great, and the room was fabulous.
We've sailed 6 times and have been aft, mid, and forward and on decks 5, 7 and 8. When the seas are rough, there will be movement. Personally, I don't mind as it can be lulling to get rocked to sleep at sea.
Have a great cruise!
One thing I discovered during our first cruise, on the night that had very rough seas (knock the human down in the gift shop rough... I do not suggest grabbing for the display as you fall if you can avoid it, though if it is filled with stuffed critters it is not so bad when they come down on top of you :-) ).....
The bed in our stateroom ran in line with the sip. Turning my body so I was on an angle to the bed or "perpendicular" on the bed made a difference (either positive or negative) on how I felt in terms of motion sickness. I had to play around a bit to get the right angle, and some angles were downright unpleasant, but once I found the right one it was pretty good !!
Of course, it was only me sleeping in the bed, which made it much easier -- queen bed to one human :-) But it could be done with two people sharing the bed as long as both are willing to sleep at the same angle.
I've sailed on the Wonder to Alaska (forward) and the Fantasy to the Caribbean (midship). We had calm seas both times and I did not notice any real difference in feeling the ship's movement between staterooms.
I mostly felt the ship's movement when I was far forward (the theater) or all the way aft (Animator's on the Wonder in particular). If you have rough seas, I've heard that mid-ship on a low deck will feel the least movement but I don't have any first-hand experience of that.
From past experience the higher up you are the more you can feel motion, as well as the more forward or aft. The middle of the ship on a floor closer to the water line is the best for not feeling the motion. I also agree about what way you're sleeping. I've been on a cruise where we were on the outer edge of a hurricane and I slept side to side (head starboard, feet port) and slept better due to the rocking vs sleeping forward to aft and feeling more jostled on calmer seas
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It really is all abut preference. Personally the lower decks are death for me. I remember being on like deck 2 meeting with someone and I thought I was going to be ill, right there in the office. Our room on deck 7 or 8, wherever it was, I don't remember was much better for me. We are usually pretty much midship but we prefer aft to the forward if we can't be precisely in the middle. Just personal opinion, if the seas are rough youre going to feel it no matter where you are. During our hawaii cruise the seas were so rough even the crew was sick and my husband fell out of bed. At one point I actually felt like the ship must be turning upside down because it was rocking so badly. A lot of people skipped the shows because being on deck 3 was too rocky for them...so it really is all about what your body adjusts to more readily. Do keep in mind you really are basically just sleeping in your room, the activities onboard the ship are spread out so don't feel like you'll be exiled to your stateroom, there are plenty of places to be throughout the day and night so find comfort in that fact!
I have had really good luck on Deck 2, midship. I get wicked motion sickness and I notice the ships movement much more when I am really forward (like the spa) or aft (Animators Palate). Deck height doesn't seem to make much of a difference.
The physics of ships change little from one ship to the next. You'll feel up-and-down motion ("pitch") most towards the bow (forward), less in the stern (aft), least midship. You'll feel side-to-side motion ("roll") most on high decks, least on low decks.
The cruise lines almost universally charge more for midship staterooms than fore or aft - that can be a worthwhile investment if you're sensitive to motion. I'm not particularly sensitive, so I'm perfectly happy anywhere. That said, if I have a choice of forward or aft at the same price, I'm going to go for aft.
The cruise lines also almost universally charge more for rooms on higher decks that lower. Higher is never a worthwhile investment if your concern is motion sickness. If being close to the pool deck is important to you, then by all means, pay for a higher deck! Me? It's more important to be close to the main dining rooms and theaters. ;-)
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I think room location is a personal preference. On our first cruise on the Magic we were almost all the way forward. On our next cruise on the Fantasy we were almost all the way AFT. We much preferred the AFT location over the forward location. We felt more moment forward than we did AFT. For our next cruise we booked an AFT room again.