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Yep, pretty easy accessibility is why we never got a GAC for my DH. He can't walk for any distance and thus uses a scooter in large stores, malls and at WDW.
Yeah, the vast majority of queue's now are wheelchair- and even ECV-accessible. The couple days I was in a powerchair after hurting my foot this past January, the most I got was being asked if I could transfer to a regular ride seat or not (so they'd know if I needed to be put on a particular, specially-adapted ride vehicle or not).

Mostly, between attractions, I just had to look out for stairs, and then look around for alternate routes from A to B.

Oh, and dodge other guests, kids and adults alike, who kept thinking it would be a good idea to dash in front of a power chair with only 2-3 inches to spare.
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Did you get anyone who gave you a dirty look because obviously it's all YOUR fault?? Lenny gets that on occasion and I usually just shake my head and say "you need to pay better attention people." As we keep going, I don't know nor do I care whether they heard me or not.
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Did you get anyone who gave you a dirty look because obviously it's all YOUR fault?? Lenny gets that on occasion and I usually just shake my head and say "you need to pay better attention people." As we keep going, I don't know nor do I care whether they heard me or not.
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this will be our families first time renting a scooter and honestly I am not looking forward to it because I see how scooter people are treated
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this will be our families first time renting a scooter and honestly I am not looking forward to it because I see how scooter people are treated
It happens but I grew a thick skin long ago. I don't have to live with those people so I'm not going to let them being rude ruin my trip.
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It's just habit, not so much rudeness, I think. People simply don't register as being near someone whose head isn't at about shoulder level or above.

Unless you're familiar with someone using a chair or have used one yourself, you tend to behave as if surrounded by the ablebodied and expect those around you to move quickly to avoid invading YOUR space. People honestly are unaware that chairs can't move aside or stop as nimbly as feet can.

I know I didn't realize how difficult it could be to maneuver a scooter without hitting people until I used DH's some while recovering from surgery. I hadn't realized either until then how much more "space aware" I needed to be of someone using a chair.
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I truthfully don't think that's a valid excuse. Wheelchairs and scooters are everywhere nowadays. You can't tell me that these people who are oblivious go around life and never see a scooter or wheelchair anywhere - or even a stroller for that matter (yes, a stroller can stop quicker than a wheelchair or scooter, but it's still lower to the ground and you need to be aware of them). Every weekend when I go to the grocery store (I avoid mid week trips usually) there's always one, if not two or three people using a scooter or wheelchair (or the occasional stroller) in the store. I tend to go at different times of the day so it's not the same person week in and week out. The same with Walmart or Target when I go there. Disney is no different only you see a lot more of them in one day.
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Darlene, I didn't mean it to excuse people. I know full well that there are SOME who really aren't thoughtful of how their actions may affect others.

I was speaking only of general awareness. I'm more aware of the difficulties of maneuvering in crowds both because of DH's and my own (quite limited) experience. I acquired a somewhat different space awareness when learning to push DH's wheelchair safely during the year he was off his feet. Before then, I didn't realize how much more space to maneuver safely someone in a chair requires because of the additional space the chair occupies.

I truly think that able-bodied people who don't live with someone needing mobility aids or haven't ever needed one themselves simply are unaware and not intentionally rude oftentimes.
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Darlene, I didn't mean it to excuse people. I know full well that there are SOME who really aren't thoughtful of how their actions may affect others.

I was speaking only of general awareness. I'm more aware of the difficulties of maneuvering in crowds both because of DH's and my own (quite limited) experience. I acquired a somewhat different space awareness when learning to push DH's wheelchair safely during the year he was off his feet. Before then, I didn't realize how much more space to maneuver safely someone in a chair requires because of the additional space the chair occupies.

I truly think that able-bodied people who don't live with someone needing mobility aids or haven't ever needed one themselves simply are unaware and not intentionally rude oftentimes.
I think you are right about not realizing the space requirements or stopping speeds etc. It's the same for people who switch stollers to something considerably different size-wise or people who seldom wear a backpack. I've been smacked by more than one backpack by someone who forgot how much more space they occupy.
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Thanks, oldmom. Different stroller sizes are a good example of something else that requires a different awareness.

Plus, at Disney both adults and children are so distracted by excitement and all the stimulation of their surroundings that people generally are less aware of others around them. Those are big factors that may make otherwise considerate people appear quite thoughtless and rude.
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Almost. Every. Time.

... I swear, if I ever end up in a chair or ECV permanently? I'm adapting something they have for bicycles - laser emitter that paints a bike lane behind the cycle. I'm going to have it paint a two-foot-around-me perimeter, with the words "NO STEP" along the edge (animated to circle me - and cycling between, say, the dozen most commonly-encountered languages at WDW). :P

The worst thing is, I wasn't concerned about me - no, I'm a big guy, I'm not delicate, I can handle being bumped into. But, I'm a BIG guy, and together with the chair itself, I'd be surprised if the total gross weight was less than 500 or 600 pounds. That much weight rolling over some kid's foot would end the family vacation, right then and there ... to the sound of breaking bones and shrieks of pain. And that would put a serious damper on MY vacation, in turn, 'cause I'd feel responsible, regardless of whether I actually was.
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