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Wow!!!!!! I have a child with autism, and at first your post scared me. My son's had a meltdown or two in a few loud restaurants or ones with characters, and we've had to take him outside to calm down . I figured your post would be talking about something like that....but OMG! That's just unthinkable.
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WOW, Just amazed at this. Was management called? I would have had them tossed out of the parks and banned them for the rest of thier stay. Like heck some snotty nosed bratty little punk is going to do that to my employees. I would not have been kind about it either. Sorry folks, I am Old Testament when it comes to squaring things between us.
OMG! I couldn't believe what I just read and had to read it again! I personally have never seen such behaviour by a child...at least not one in which the parents did nothing! I am shocked and horrified that this little boy was allowed to do that (I say 'allowed' cuz if there is no parenting, then they are 'allowed')! Wow - scary to think what he will be like as a teen...
People act diffently online and in Disney parks because they are anonymous. I would have thought the child had a hidden disability but what you said about the parents leads to poor parenting. I have seen it all and got the bruises to prove it. I watched a toddling girl walk around the Chase Lounge seating to the television and knock over a lamp. She did it on purpose but the parents did not come running when their kid wondered off and they did not offer to pay for the lamp. It is something I see too often, parents who do not react to badly behaved kids.
Other than some words to the parents there is nothing you can do but stay far away from those folks. Next time get the child from your table. It is your space and they do not need to be there unless you are willing to babysit their kid. I like talking to kids but please leave me to my laptop and meal. You have to nip things in the bud before you end up with a mess.
Finally what is wrong with the parents? I would pray for them as maybe they are sick or maybe they were never taught parenting skills. Maybe the parents grew up in a home where such behavior was tolerated or maybe they were rebuked so hard for scolding their kids that they stopped.
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I wonder what came of this after the server told his/her boss. I would hope management would've done something. I wonder how you would even be able to handle that? That's so uncalled for and his parents should've not even allowed him to linger at your table!!! Why would that ever be ok let alone let him haul off and slap the waiter!! Do you know if they made him apologize? I bet not since they could've cared less that he was at your table. Well, and that he slapped a waiter. WOW WOW WOW!!!
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I have to say that even if this child had a hidden disability this is still intolerable behavior. My son has high-functioning autism, and he has hit people. Typically it is people who are working or playing with him and he becomes frustrated. I cannot recall a time he has hit a complete stranger, or a waiter. He has meltdowns and sometimes has to be restrained for a period of time until he calms down.
As a parent of a child with a disability it is my job to help him learn, in spite of his disability that this behavior is not acceptable and to teach him proper behaviors. If I am not doing that, I am not doing my job. My son does not wander around restaurants, he sits in his seat, doesn't turn around and look at other tables, doesn't stand in his seat etc. and he uses manners (please, thank you etc) when ordering. We spent a good couple years dealing with leaving restaurants, or having to take him out while everyone else finished until he was able to use proper behavior in a restaurant. We weren't able to enjoy eating out often until he finally mastered these skills. Even now he will occasionally have a meltdown in a restaurant and if he does we take him out immediately.
If my son would have slapped a waiter, I would have immediately gone hands on (restraining) with him and tried to take him outside, to make sure he and everyone around him was safe. We tell our son when we have to restrain him that he is not being safe. I would apologize to the waiter and explain the disability (not making excuses, just explaining). I would have left the waiter an exceptionally large tip and I would have felt very humiliated by the situation. I would have also asked to speak with a manager to see if there was anything else that we needed to do. Once my son calmed down I would have him apologize to the waiter, when he apologizes he has to say "I'm sorry, I was wrong for (what he did, in this case hitting) next time I will (positive response to the situation: in this case it cannot "not hit" - can be "use my words", "ask for help" etc.).
Never would I let my son, even with a hidden disability not have a consequence for this kind of behavior. His disability is not an excuse for bad behavior, it means we have to work harder to learn how to behave in social settings.
I'm so shocked by this I don't even know what to say......if I were the CM I would have brought in my manager immediately to escort the family from the park.. That type of behaviour is absolutely unacceptable.
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OMG!!! I would have said something and probably got in trouble for it. This is un-called for I think the parents should have been told something.. I can't stand parents that allow their kids to get away with everything, sometimes I'm like WTF!!!
I don't know how you did nothing!... or did you? What did the server do? I think I would have had to do something in that situation - that is just too over the top.
I certainly wouldn't have been able to keep my mouth shut. And if it was my kid, she'd have apologized and then removed. I'd have probably punished her additionally after leaving.
Wow! That is about all I can say! As a parent, I can't even imagine not saying something to my child and then letting it continue. Wow! I am speechless!
Oh my!! The parents should have stepped up and did something about this behavior, disability or not. It can be understandable if there is a disability involved and the parents stepped up and apologized and try to turn the situation around. Maybe they were "baiting" the staff to see what they'd do to get something out of it. Hate to think that way but there are too many people out there like that.
One of the reasons I am no longer a child care teacher! non parent involvement/ discipline...... makes me wonder as a provider what that child has witnessed first hand and those poor cast mates, my heart goes out to them, how heart breaking, and for everyone who saw that especially all of the other innocent children makes me sad, mad, and sick to my stomach. A parent's job no matter what, where, who, how, when, why, is to protect, and guide their children. Sorry I'm going on a tangent, but the old saying applies here "You have to have a license to drive a car, but anyone can have a child?" I'm sorry that y'all had this experience. WOW that's all I can say!