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ok..I know this sounds stupid, but bear with me cuz I'm still learning about all this DVC info, but what are the Resale Points all about and do you obtain buy them directly through DVC? I just read on another topic that someone bought 50 resale points for OKW for about $3,600. Now I'm confused, because I thought minimum purchase was 150 points. Any specifics would be so very helpful...or a website explaining it all. Thanks! Lynne [img]graemlins/wavin.gif[/img]
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"Resale" is when you buy points through someone other than Disney. There are brokers that deal in timeshares, and you can buy into DVC through them. As far as I understand, these are from people that bought through Disney but are now selling their memberships.
The cost of buying a resale through a broker may be less than buying through Disney even considering that with a resale there are usually some costs involved (closing, etc.) that you don't pay when you purchase directly through DVC. I think Don bought his second bunch of points via resale, so I'm sure he's got lots more information for you!
Thanks so much MrsM! Don, if you can share all the "in's and out's" of buying resale points. I'd really appreciate it. Also, with regard to the person who bought 50 points, it sounds great and affordable, but is it enough for a 6 or 7 night stay? My problem right now is that I have no idea whatsoever how many points are needed per night for a specific type of villa (I cannot seem to find a chart). My other questions is: if I purchased resale points, does that mean I would be taking over the remainder of the time left on someone's membership? Oh, and one last question (so sorry)..If I do buy resale points, would I still be able to buy more points through DVC at a later date/time? [img]images/icons/rolleyes.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/smile.gif[/img] [img]images/icons/cool.gif[/img] Lynne
I'm sure Don will give you more resale info - but in the meantime: Right now, all of the contracts expire in 2042 (Saratoga Springs will be sold for 50 years, good through 2054) so whether you buy through DVC or resale it would be good through 2042. Sometimes when you buy resale, the previous owners may have borrowed some of their points so you may have fewer to use in your first year.
Even if you buy resale, DVC considers you a member just like anyone who bought through them so you would be able to add on later if you wanted.
This isn't an official points chart, but you can try the calculator here to see how many points you might need: DVC points calculator
HI MRSM! Thanks again for the info. I reviewed the chart and also reviewed info on Mouseplanet.com (at the other Lynne's suggestion) and all of that explains alot. I have a better understanding of everything now! All I have to do now is save save save!!!
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Re: Resale Points
Don is on vacation at WDW right now. I'm sure he'll be happy to answer your questions when he returns.
I don't belong to DVC, so take this from a non-owners viewpoint. I believe your first buy whether through resale or direct from Disney must be the minimum of 150 points. After that, you can make additional purchases for smaller increments to add to your holdings.
50 points can be one night at high season or a few nights during low season, depending on the type of unit and the day of the week.
You may buy less than 150 points via resale and still be treated as a full fledged member. We have points charts on our site also, if it will help: DVCByResale.com
Once you are a Member, you may buy more points from Disney within your same use year - or on the resale market within any use year. Factors to consider are annual dues and home resort reservation timeframes.
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