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Would it help any to make sure this kid sits away from your son in classes or band practice?
When I was in band, we had to sit in our sections and by "chair" (1st chair = best player, 2nd chair = next best, and so on), so depending on what instruments they play, they may just have to sit where they sit. The band director needs to deal with the little shmuck.
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Middle school? Ugh, I have a 6th and 7th grader and they have to deal with some real brat's in middle school...... You are right, stealing is illegal and I hope he gets caught- but I kind of doubt it without proof..... Like another poster said- too bad he didn't put it on youtube or facebook! Someone stole my ds's wallet out of his backpack last week! So frustrating! He has soccer practice after school and they have to leave all their stuff in the gym when they go out to practice (the basketball players have the lockers for now). So frustrating...... And kids (especially at the middle school level) can be SO mean.....
My teenage son and I were talking about stuff like this after school today. One of his friends had his ipod touch stolen out of his bookbag during PE.
What we have always done: he puts his wallet, cell phone, ect. in the middle outside pocket of his bookbag and puts a lock on it. He has a combination lock. Then he turns his bookbag in such a way that it's not really noticable while he's at PE.
He says he only unlocks it when he gets on the school bus since PE is the 2nd to last class of his day.
I still don't know if it's good or bad that he does this but I guess it's better than nothing.
You know ... if I had a son or daughter in a school that:
Did not provide students with secure storage (i.e., lockers) during PE;
Did not, alternately, provide students with enough time to drop off valuable belongings in their already-assigned locker (for coats, books, etc);
and thus, required student's possessions to be left unsecured, in an unmonitored environment inherently conducive to theft ...?
I think I'd see what I could do to make the school liable for the cost of replacing anything stolen. I mean, seriously, they're setting up things to make theft easy, and the solutions are both many, and easy. Some of them even effectively zero-cost.
Were a child of mine to have an ipod, wallet, or cellphone stolen from their schoolbag the way a few here have described, I think I would be just as angry at the school as at the actual thief. Said thief probably has the excuse of "young and dumb" ... so what excuses do the faculty have??
Students at our school are not allowed to bring any type of electronic device to school other than their cell phones. Cell phones can be left on the person but must be turned off at all times.
If I want students to listen to a piece that we are playing in band or orchestra, they know to go to jwpepper.com and do a search for the piece. Pepper has many of the pieces recorded on their site and kids can listen to them at home.
Sean, even when you have the kids put their Ipods, cell phones, or whatever in their lockers they get stolen. Kids tell their friends their locker combinations and their friends tell their friends and soon pretty much the entire school knows someone who knows another students locker combo. That is why we say keep it at home and if you don't too bad for you.
Sean, even when you have the kids put their Ipods, cell phones, or whatever in their lockers they get stolen. Kids tell their friends their locker combinations and their friends tell their friends and soon pretty much the entire school knows someone who knows another students locker combo. That is why we say keep it at home and if you don't too bad for you.
At least then, it clearly is the kid's fault.
Me, I never shared my combination with anyone. Not even my mother (if she'dneeded to empty mylocker for any reason - all locks were provided by the administration, who kept a duplicate key).
But as I said, if the school is effectively requiring items to be left unsecured - even if the "items" are just the backpack, their regular clothes, and a school textbook - then the school should be responsible for preventing theft.
Also, more and more schools (at least at the college level, and Highschools can't be that many years behind) are requiring calculators for certain math courses. A math course I took a few years ago in thelocal community college required a specific, at-the-time $150 model (a TI 80+ or later).
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A bit of an anecdote of some relation to this:
When I was fourteen, I was in a boarding school. My mother had bought me a Commodore C-64 computer that Christmas. At the time, that was a $450 system (including the separate disk-drive unit), and my mother had to work a LOT of hours of overtime to afford it. Well, I was perfectly willing to share with my housemates at the time ... except that one boy was being quite rough with it, pounding on the keys in a way that made me worried he would break one. When confronted with that worry, his response was "so what?" So I forbade him to touch it anymore, and he complained (read: whined) to the staff.
Their response, shockingly, was "you have to share, period." Even though the school has a strict policy of "students are responsible for their own belongings, and the school is not liable for any damage" ... I still, even at that young age, stood up to the staff and explained, carefully, that if they required me to share the computer, evenin the face of my concern that he would damage it ... that I was certainmy mother would hold the school, and that staff member personally, responsible for the full, "almost five hundred dollars" replacement cost. The staff relented, mostly (I couldn't use it in public areas of the house without sharing, yet, wasn't allowed to be alone in my room with it either).
My mother later agreed 110% with what I'd said about who would be held liable. She also insisted it be brought home and left there, because she'd rather not have that particular fight - but she also had a few words with the staff, and they never again tried to insist that I had to share any of my personal belongings.
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The moral of that story is: no matter how much an organisation may claim not to be responsible for any loss or damage ofpersonal items ... if they can be shown to have created the risk itself ... they're liable, anyway. Such as, in this case, failing to provide students with any means, however ill-utilised, to secure their own possessions from potential theft.
If the school provides lockers, and locks (or allows students to provide their own locks) ... then they can say "not our problem", and actually make it stick. But absent a provision like that? I seriously doubt they'd get off scott-free.
Didn't mean to start anything. DS knows that to some degree the loss of the first iTouch was his own fault. He now no longer takes the new one to school - other than once to get the band music downloaded onto it. He also watches what the problem kid does as much as he can. I mean after all, this kid would mess with any of DS's stuff if given the opportunity so it is up to DS to be vigilant. I don't expect the school to be responsible for DS's property, but I do expect the school to be responsible for ensuring that DS isn't bugging or bullied by other students. Luckily DS is pretty easy going and gets along with 75% of the other students, another 20% he pretty much ignores ('course they ignore him too) and the last 5% are the ones that are potential problems. Mostly DS manages to keep everything under control and doesn't have any major issues.
Again, thanks for the pixies. As I mentioned, things seem to have settled with the problem kid. I've asked DS how things were going and he said fine and that the kid was ignoring him. Which is just fine with both of us!
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It's so sad, that kids would do these kinds of things. In high school, I was aware of kids who went looking through people's things and collected stolen iPods to give to their friends...really?! I just can't wrap my head around it! It can happen anywhere too! My mom's phone was just stolen off her desk at work, allegedly by a custodian (he was spotted by another worker with it, but the day he was questioned he did not have it on him, so he got off)! Honestly...
that things stay calm with your DS!!!
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Also, more and more schools (at least at the college level, and Highschools can't be that many years behind) are requiring calculators for certain math courses. A math course I took a few years ago in thelocal community college required a specific, at-the-time $150 model (a TI 80+ or later).
Sorry - had to laugh at this!! Middle DD is now a Senior in HS. She was required to purchase a Texas Instruments Ti-84 Plus Graphing Calculator in grade 8.
At the same time she was doing this, I was taking courses at two different universities in the city - and both of them had hard and fast rules about calculators: unless it's a graphing class, no graphing calculators!! So, I "inherited" her old Ti-30 (non-graphing) one and she got a new $200 one!
Jennifer - glad your son is doing better with the bully. Sometimes you just have to wait them out.
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I just can't wrap my head around it! It can happen anywhere too! My mom's phone was just stolen off her desk at work, allegedly by a custodian (he was spotted by another worker with it, but the day he was questioned he did not have it on him, so he got off)! Honestly...
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