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I was looking through Touring Plans for some possible dates and I noticed that in June, during the Star Wars weekend, they list the crowd levels as only a 6. I would think that it would be a lot busier during SWW. Any thoughts?
You mean, for the parks other than the Studios, the crowds are 6's?
I've been to SWW three times now and I'd say that was a good estimate. The Studios is packed, but other parks aren't terrible, at least for the first two weekends of June.
Those are the overall crowd levels. Subscription only information removed by a Guide. We'd like to plan a trip when the crowds are not bad but we don't have to take the kids out of school. We went last August and when we first got the it was fairly reasonable but half way through, the free dining period kicked in. The crowds were horrible and the level of rudeness was pretty bad too (by guests, not CMs). Thanks for the info.
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Those are the overall crowd levels. Subscription only information removed by a Guide. We'd like to plan a trip when the crowds are not bad but we don't have to take the kids out of school. We went last August and when we first got the it was fairly reasonable but half way through, the free dining period kicked in. The crowds were horrible and the level of rudeness was pretty bad too (by guests, not CMs). Thanks for the info.
Our experience exactly. I am nearly finished with My August TR. We arrive 8/13 and thigs were fine. I *think* free dining started 8/16 and parks--and food establishments--got progressively busier throughout the week. Friday at MK was rated a 6....but the crowds were out of control. It was especially frustrating since we were paying for our DDP OOP (although we had an awesome pin code, so all is relative in the end...).
I found this last years SWW much more crowded than in 2009. The key is get there when the parks opens, be ready to wait at least an hour beffore the parade to make sure you hit the shade!
Our experience exactly. I am nearly finished with My August TR. We arrive 8/13 and thigs were fine. I *think* free dining started 8/16 and parks--and food establishments--got progressively busier throughout the week. Friday at MK was rated a 6....but the crowds were out of control. It was especially frustrating since we were paying for our DDP OOP (although we had an awesome pin code, so all is relative in the end...).
That is exactly the same boat we were in. We got there the 11th (we were there at the same time, lol) and had to pay for our dining plan OOP. I could have ignored the crowds if it wasn't for the way they were acting. We have a 5 and 2y/o and they were being pushed out of the way by people trying to get on the trams and rides ahead of everyone else. One day it got to the point we left and went to KSC.
That is exactly the same boat we were in. We got there the 11th (we were there at the same time, lol) and had to pay for our dining plan OOP. I could have ignored the crowds if it wasn't for the way they were acting. We have a 5 and 2y/o and they were being pushed out of the way by people trying to get on the trams and rides ahead of everyone else. One day it got to the point we left and went to KSC.
Sorry you had to deal with so much rudeness. We did not notice a big jump in that, other than what would come with more people...unless we were the rude ones...sorry about that
Sorry you had to deal with so much rudeness. We did not notice a big jump in that, other than what would come with more people...unless we were the rude ones...sorry about that
LOL. I have a feeling it wasn't you, but I'll keep an eye out next time.
Hey guys! Just a quick reminder, providing any subscription-based information, as well as requesting it, is prohibited here on the boards.
I know that everyone wants to help out their fellow PassPorter; however, providing this information; i.e. the per-park daily crowd predictions from Touring Plans, as well as any other subscription-based website, is a violation of the copyright Guidelines practiced here at PassPorter.
Therefore I have edited out any information posted in this thread that provides the subscription crowd predictions -- other than the free 30 days out data currently available on Touring Plans' site.
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