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Old 10-26-2010, 11:55 AM   #1
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Passport for niece?

Forgive me if this has been asked but we are planning on a 2012 cruise and have been thinking about inviting my niece. I know for a fact that she doesn't have a passport so what would we need in order for her to sail with us? Would a birth certificate suffice? Would any other documentation be needed due to the fact that we are not her actual guardians?

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I highly recommend getting a passport or passport card for her travel. There is going to be a paper in your documents that you have to have signed from the parents prior to sail or they will not let her board,
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Being that its in 2012 not sure what guidelines may change or start to be enforced but I would recommend getting her a passport just in case they start to enforce the passport requirement further then just a birth certificate. Plus if something happened and she or all of you needed to fly home from a foreign port for any reason you'll have the proper documents to do so.

If her parents are not going with you, you will need to have a letter stating that they give you permission to take their child out of the country, and make decisions on their behalf should anything happen and she need medical attention. I believe it needs to be notarized.

I just saw a special on the Oasis of the Seas and there were at least 4 families who all had children either neice/nephew or their own kids traveling with different last names due to either taking them as a gift, or divorce. They didn't have documents stating they were allowed to take them out of the country and they all had to contact the other parent or parents and have a letter faxed because of concerns of Child Abductions. So its best to be covered on all corners to make sure you aren't at the port frantic because they need it!

So I would recommend having the letter and a passport to make sure that your covered. But as of right now as long as your leaving from Port Canaveral and returning to Port Canaveral they only require a Birth Certificate but since regulations can and have changed in the past best to keep up to date as it gets closer to your sail date.
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I don't see the passport regulations changing in the near future. Creating the "closed loop exception," which relaxed the passport requirement specifically for cruises that begin and end in the same U.S. port, was something that took a lot of hearings and lobbying effort. Unless something really bad happens as a result of this exception, it's not likely to change at short notice (and the way the government regulatory process works, 2012 would be very short notice).

I'm presuming your niece is under 18, otherwise matters of guardianship would not arise. A notarized letter from her parents is essential in this circumstance. Not only should it cover permission to travel with you out of the country, but should also include the power to authorize medical treatment and make similar decisions in the parents' absence.

While in theory, a birth certificate alone is fine for a minor on a closed loop itinerary (adults also need government-issued photo ID), it's only proof of birth, not proof of identity. It has no photo or other way to confirm the child's identity. When combined with a government-issued ID (or the ID of the parents named on the birth certificate), it is used for proof of citizenship (not proof of identity). The adults' proof of identity is used to confirm the child's identity. Additional proof (like a notarized statement from both parents named on the birth certificate) is important.

A passport helps greatly in eliminating possible complications, as it is a government-issued photo ID as well as proof of citizenship. While the adult(s) traveling with a minor still need a notarized letter to establish the child is traveling with parental permission (and that the guardian has the power to authorize medical treatment, etc.), a passport simplifies customs and immigration-related matters.

While not required by regulations, I'd recommend a passport rather than birth certificate under these circumstances.
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Thank you all very much. Lots of needed and important information to consider. You guys are GREAT!
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I always worry about carrying around a birth certificate. A passport is much easier
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I always worry about carrying around a birth certificate. A passport is much easier
That's always been my feeling. Somehow I don't worry that I'll lose a passport, but having a BC with me makes me nervous.
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When I take my own kids out of the country without their father (to whom I'm married), I bring along a notarized letter stating that I have his permission to take them to 'wherever I'm going' and that we will be returning on 'specified date.' I've been asked for this by the border people every time I've travelled since I started travelling with them without my husband.
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