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Old 09-01-2009, 02:52 AM   #46
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I was interested when I heard this last night - it's not something I'd have expected and I must admit we did discuss the implications for Universal. I'd prefer to see the Marvel characters remaining there, rather than moving to Disney.
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As someone else pointed out, Universal will continue to hold the rides for the licensing on the current rides at IOA as long as they are maintaining those rides. Once a ride shuts down to be replaced by something else, then they lose the right to that character. However, this only affects theme parks EAST of the Mississippi River. So I would expect to see Marvel characters at DL, before WDW.
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Disney does have comic book properties prior to Marvel. They have a STRONG publishing arm.

however, many of the comics featuring Disney characters are licensed (primarily to BOOM! Studios right now). That's what Disney does. They create characters and they license them out. They don't manufacture digital cameras, they license HSM out to people who do.

And that's essentially what the Marvel deal is about. The licensing.

Although I think the Muppets comparison isn't really a strong one, as Disney really let that property lay dormant for a while and just sort of ran it into the ground, but they have taken steps in recent years to revive the Muppets (although if I hear yet again about another new tv series that never materializes) and hopefully the presentation at the Expo will expand on that (we already know about the new Disneyland promotional campaign and the new movie).

but i don't believe for a second this has anything to do with bringing Spiderman to the parks. this is about things like Iger talked about: Disney XD uses about 20 hours of Marvel programming per week already, Disney had the XMen cartoon. this is about capitalizing on the success of someone they've already had an extreme partnership with for many years and using what they've built up to exploit that to even further heights.

I have no doubts Disney would love for Universal to hang on to Marvel for decades to come. Because the money Universal pays for those rights goes to Disney. And Universal already has so much invested in the product and Disney doesn't have to invest a dime, just sit back and collect the royalties.

There is no Disney vs. Universal mentality. Sure, Disney would love for you to spend all your time at WDW and forget USO exists, but you won't and they know it. But you don't think they'll feel better having a slice of both pies now?

aside from the fact that using my perennial example of the Pirates of the Caribbean movie. Disney film? yes. Disney produced? yes. Disney distributed? yes. But much of it was filmed at Universal Studios. Much of the ironwork and props were produced by Warner Brothers. A lot of the post-editing was done at Sony. So it really has nothing to do with whose name is on the face of the product, it's more about the back end and the bottom line.
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And that Dave is the sad sad truth Disney wants to buy out all the film rights character rights and for that matter every single entertainment entity in the market to become the ultimatum in entertainment and overpower other companies. Isn't there a rule about capitalism where its supposed to be a balance of companies and not one company overpowering the rest of the market.

I mean buying out Marvel is one thing but Disney attempting to become THE entertainment entity of the world is a violation against The Sherman Antitrust Act. Walt when he was alive violated the act by eliminating all other animation business's and not creating a fair balance of business.

With to much capitalism from one company you essentially have a company ruling the country economically by running the countries market through the majority of licensed products. I prefer a healthy balance of business.

Sometimes I want to watch films, cartoons, and entertainment products and other entities not owned by Disney because honestly none of you even most loyal Disney fans want to have every single entertainment entity owned by Disney. Even you want off from Disney every now and then just like every other company.
Not them owning every licensed character in the market.
This is why all of the news reports have noted that the deal is still subject to FTC approval. I don't know that I care who owns the character so long as they are producing high quality entertainment that I and my family enjoy.
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im quite interested to see what will happen in terms of the marvel superhearo island, i did read that universal have the rights to the charactors and rides for as long as the island is in operation...will this be something disney will try and change? SO MANY QUESTIONS
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I for one, am totally stoked with the thought of Marvel moving in to Disney parks... My DS (11) is a huge fan of Spidey and the rest of the Marvel comic characters (not to mention that Stan Lee is his ultimate hero!) and since he is getting to that age where Disney characters aren't as cool, perhaps this will give us a few more family vacations to DW without him balking at the idea!
Give Disney some credit... they have decades of experience in the entertainment business and wouldn't mess it up with something that they haven't thought through, especially at 4 BILLION dollars!
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Disney does have comic book properties prior to Marvel. They have a STRONG publishing arm.

however, many of the comics featuring Disney characters are licensed (primarily to BOOM! Studios right now). That's what Disney does. They create characters and they license them out. They don't manufacture digital cameras, they license HSM out to people who do.
but in the comic book industry, Disney comics just can't compare to Marvel one

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well, that's a whole other animal. people who read Toy Story aren't likely to be reading Punisher.

Kingdom Comics is probably the furthest Disney has strayed from the traditional stuff, but that's moreso graphic novels than it is series.
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Boom comics puts out the Disney comics as mentioned before. They are for little kids with nice messages to be learned. In fact I got the 4 book set of Toy Story to read to my DS!

Marvel is putting out a series right now with Stephen King, The Stand.(My fav!) I'm sure Disney will have no involvement in it, they won't try to change the creative aspect before it is over next year...

I just think Disney prob knows what they are doing with this, after spending all that money.
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According to Nicke Finke, a Hollywood reporter, Universal only has the rights to the Marvel characters that they have already used in attractions. These include: Spiderman, Hulk, Dr. Doom, and I believe that Storm is the other one. She thinks that Disney may be able to use all of the other Marvel characters. She said there will be no more Marvel characters licensed to Universal. She also thought that Disney may eventually buy back the license once the Super Hero Island becomes less popular.
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DH told me about this yesterday. Huge Marvel and Disney fan so he is very excited. He says he can see a whole new park and yes, it will really grab the boys attention.
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I think it's stupid myself... Disney needs to focus on Disney stuff for a while.. not these add ons... JMO....

my thoughts also turned ot Universal Studios in Orlando, what the heck does it mean for them, and if Spiderman makes an appearance at WDW I'm gonna scream.
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I think it's an odd combo for Disney to own Marvel, which is more adult-oriented entertainment/cartoons/comics, but then again that could be the point. And the reference to getting more boy-oriented media/merchandise is a great outcome, should that also be their plan. Lord knows DH and I have a blast shopping for the nieces, but the for the boys?? Ugh, it's definitely more a chore. It'll be interesting to see what plans Disney has for this acquisition!
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I think this could be great. My DH is a huge comic book fan. Having these characters there and attractions based on these characters would make it a lot easier to talk him into going.
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