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So, we've been thinking that it would be better to do a land and sea to "test the waters" since none of us has ever taken a cruise?! I don't want any of the kids (or mom and dad for that matter) to become so sea sick they can't enjoy it!
Wondering about your thoughts on this matter and do you have a preference 3 days land and 4 days at sea vs 4 day land and 3 days at sea?
We did two 3-night cruises (one was our son's first cruise, and a few years later our daughter's first cruise) for exactly that reason -- we didn't want to be stuck all week if someone couldn't handle the motion. When we did our first 7-night cruise, we were amazed at how much more relaxing it was when we didn't have to pack just two days after we unpacked. So I can definitely see both sides here.
I think a 4-night cruise would be preferable to a 3-night, but you really would be rushed trying to see the bulk of the parks in 3 days. (Of course, if you book separately, you could do 4 nights on land and 4 nights at sea, if you have enough vacation time). The deciding factor in our doing the 3-night cruises was the schedule -- it worked out best for us to return home on Sunday night.
Really, I don't think you can go wrong with any of these options!
We personally prefer 7 night over shorter cruises. And we don't particularly care for Nassau specifically. Very few people really get sick, unless the weather is so c*** that the crew is carrying bags "just in case". I would check out meclizine (Bonine, only cheaper) to see how it affects you. Very few people have any problems with it. Mythbusters did a test last year and found that ginger was especially good. We usually have a couple of ginger snaps twice a day. When we go out on a dive boat, we'll take Bonine and a ginger capsule. Most people who take a short cruise say "why didn't we do something longer?" Of course, if you just have to visit the parks, that may be your limit.
I would also recommend looking at booking the two parts separately versus the price of a package. One advantage is that you can select the resort, including going with a Value if you want. They aren't available in the Land/Sea packages.
We tested the water too on our cruise and did the three night cruise and it worked perfectly for us. Our logic was that the three night cruise is at sea from Thursday to Sunday, meaning we could spend time at the parks on mainly weekdays, when they're usually quieter. It worked great for us.
[I would also recommend looking at booking the two parts separately versus the price of a package. One advantage is that you can select the resort, including going with a Value if you want. They aren't available in the Land/Sea packages.[/quote]
I agree with the above quote, we are doing our first DCL cruise in September, 2009(4 day on Wonder), the week before we are staying at Disney. We are hoping they will offer free dining again, or 40% off promtions, so it makes it even more economical. My travel agent said she is doing the same thing this year, she is booking it seperate, because financially that is the better deal.
We are booked on the 4 night land/3 night sea in September 2009 for your exact reason. We have never cruised before, and if we get sick/bored/hate it for any reason, it's only 3 nights. We are also doing the 4 nights before the cruise and an additional 4 nights after the cruise. We already know we love the parks!
I would suggest a 4 night because you get a sea day and that is what you want to try. Can you deal with being up and moving during the day while the ship is moving? If you do a three day you don't have any "at sea" days.
Also agree...book the two parts on your own vice the package
If you can do it, book them seperately and try to do a at least a 4 day. You really only are getting one full day on the cruise if do a 3 day. We prefer no less than a 7 day cruise and find ourselves not wanting to get off the ship. I would do the land part first so you have the relaxing part of your vacation at the tail end. I think we are going to do 3 or 4 days at WDW next trip and follow it with the 7 day.
We are doing the 4 land 3 sea in July for the same reason (and DW promised to take her brother on a cruise and to WDW, someday). I'll let you know how it goes!
Our first cruise was the 3 night to see if we'd like it. we loved it, but really wanted more. it felt like we'd just gotten there when we had to pack up again. 2nd cruise was a 4 night because we got a killer deal. loved it, especially having the at sea day to relax. But again, we wanted more. So from now on we'll stick with 7 nights. if you're doing both land and sea, like most have said, book them separately and do the land part first.
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