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Old 04-29-2008, 07:09 PM   #16
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Thanks for the info, I'm glad we are already booked!

Kind of on the same subject, do you see Disney raising the price of meals, which will affect the price of cruises and (on-shore) dining plans because of increasing costs of shipping food?
DCL only takes on food at its home ports (Port Canaveral, and Port of Los Angeles for the West Coast itineraries), so I don't see transportation costs being significant for the food. The cost of fuel to transport the food once it is on the ship is undoubtedly included in the surcharge. Since the only meal DCL charges for is Palo, and the food costs for Palo are just a drop in the bucket compared to overall food costs, I don't see any change in the Palo charge either.

Since cruise lines (including DCL) use demand-driven pricing (there's never an announced "list" price), they can slip in a price increase at any time without folks knowing why it's happening (or even that it's happened). The only reason to tack on a fuel surcharge is to be able to blame external circumstances and separate that cost from the list price of the cruise. The same is true of the current policy changes for airline baggage. It's a way to pass along cost increases without increasing the quoted base fare of the flight.

As to the cost of the dining plan and meals on land? People in the restaurant business will tell you that food is only a fraction of the cost of any meal, and transportation costs are only a fraction of the cost of the food, so I don't see Disney adding a fuel surcharge to the dining plan. Restaurant prices will probably creep up, as food costs are going higher even when you don't include the cost of food. I expect Disney will hold off on a dining plan increase until the 2009 dining plan is announced. After all, if fewer people go to WDW because they perceive prices to be going up, then Disney has a whole lot more to lose than just a few dollars on each dining plan.
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Since the only meal DCL charges for is Palo, and the food costs for Palo are just a drop in the bucket compared to overall food costs, I don't see any change in the Palo charge either.
While we were looking thing over, DH noticed that Palo is now $15 (it was $10 as recently as December), however that may have been a Jan 1, 2008 change we didn't pay attention to. But, they did increase it by 50%, saying that the increase would be for the servers and the original $10 would be for upkeep to the facility.
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What if you are already booked for Sept. 2009 and you want to change to June 2009? I have friends who are contemplating this now. Is that a new booking?
It would be considered a new booking. So do it chop-chop if you can.

As far as making it part of the price vs a surcharge (here comes tacky), if it's a surcharge, it's not commissionable.
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I noticed in that email response it said "changes in package" does that apply to adding something to your current cruise? Not changing the date, not changing the stateroom, just adding one of the packages? (I think we've decided to add the romance package....that's why I am asking). I'm sure we'll add it before the end of next month anyway, but I was just curious.
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I noticed in that email response it said "changes in package" does that apply to adding something to your current cruise? Not changing the date, not changing the stateroom, just adding one of the packages? (I think we've decided to add the romance package....that's why I am asking). I'm sure we'll add it before the end of next month anyway, but I was just curious.
I got a pretty quick response using the "contact us" feature on the DCL website (lived for that planning trip #1, too), so you might want to contact them directly and get a firm yes or no.
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"Romance" is an add-on for any reservation, so it shouldn't count as a change in your basic package.
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A "change" would be "we've changed our minds, we want to upgrade from a Cat 12 to a Cat 1". Of course, after the laughter settled down, they'd give you the new rate with the fuel surcharge.
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Well, if you can afford to upgrade to Cat 1, I don't think the fuel surcharge is going to be a deal breaker.
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