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This is my first post, but after having read some of the other posts in this forum, I know you guys can help me!
We are going to WDW in early February. "We" are myself (36), DH (35), and DS(3). We are trying to decide between WL and Beach Club (the price is a few hundred dollars different). I am mainly worried about transportation at WL with our toddler, and the WL being "too dark" (we're escaping a Northeast winter, after all). Will we have enough space in a WL room? Also, what are our chances of being able to use the pools? Anything above 50 degrees will seem warm to us by February!!
Any input you can offer is greatly appreciated! Thanks!
I would say BC. I know we stayed at WL in Feb and it was dark. If you are trying to escape the cold and you go to a lodge then your not really getting away. My vote is for BC. It is a resort that will take you mind off of your frozen home.
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You really can't lose with either choice...but if you are looking for a theme and a get away from northeast winter, I'd probably choose Beach Club too!
Funny. I'm from Sunny Southern California, so I'm excited about the atmosphere at WL. I can get "beach" any day, but would have to drive a couple hours to get wilderness. Sounds like you need to stay at BC!
As a fellow Pennsylvanian, I can heartily recommend the Beach Club for a perfect winter escape! Wilderness Lodge is absolutely lovely, but it is more our "summer resort" than for winter trips. The Lodge is warm and cozy, usually with a nice fire going but I don't want that when I escape from the cold Philadelphia winters. I want to stretch out on a lounge chair with a drink in hand, then swim in warm waters and feel the sand beneath my toes. Yes, Stormalong Bay is a sand-bottom pool! We swim year-round at WDW - just bring a sweatshirt to put on after getting out of the pool if the breeze is cool.
The pool alone usually convinces me to spend the extra money, but since we love Epcot so much, that makes it even more worth it. With the convenience of walking into the back entrance of Epcot or taking the boat to MGM, sorry Hollywood Studios, there's no place I'd rather be.
You could always split your stay between the two resorts and have the best of both worlds!
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Splitting the stay is not a bad idea! Especially for someone like me who can never really make up her mind (as if you all couldn't tell that already! ).
Disney777, your comment is so true! We have to drive at least 6 hours to get to the beach- only 90 minutes to get to a "lodge!" It's all about skiing aruound here in the winter!
Guess I'll be the dissenting vote for WL. If you have a 3-year-old I would think most of your time would be spent at the MK which is only a boat launch away from the WL and a 15-20 minute ride from the BC (assuming there's no construction or traffic). The stroller would also be easier to get on/off the boat than a bus.
You'll get same sun at the WL pool as you will the BC and it'll probably be a lot quieter and easier to keep an eye on your toddler at WL pool than it will at Stormalongbay.
You also don't necessarily get a full balcony at BC.
I'd vote for the BC We've stayed there a number of time with our kids, and they love it The rooms are bigger, you can walk/take the boat into Epcot and MGM, and the pool is fantastic. There's a great area that's all sand for little kids!
Second, I'm another BC vote. We're from CO and OR, and it seems silly to stay at a place 'just like home.' Also, the pool is phenomenal, and yes, February is often still beach weather, barring a freeze. There is a great huge 'kiddie' pool area, with shallow water and a sandspit jutting into it; my DD's have spent days there! And our DD's loved Epcot just as much as MK, even as toddlers; sometimes more, as there is a lot to do for them there as well.
I agree with the others on the Beach club. I am from Mass and would find the Beach club a good, sunny, warm getaway
I do love the Wilderness lodge, but agree it is darker and a cozier feel that I would love on a cold winters day. mmmm too bad Disney could not build one up here in the northeast lol.
Yet another vote for BC! We went in February, and even though some days were chilly, it was a great break from New England winter. My boys swam every day, and on the cooler days, I just used one (of the three!) hot tubs. The proximity to Epcot and the great Boardwalk restaurants was just wonderful! The boys proclaimed it their new favorite resort, just beating out the Poly. We would love to go back!
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Guess I'll be the dissenting vote for WL. If you have a 3-year-old I would think most of your time would be spent at the MK which is only a boat launch away from the WL and a 15-20 minute ride from the BC (assuming there's no construction or traffic). The stroller would also be easier to get on/off the boat than a bus.
We've stayed there a number of time with our kids, and they love it 
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