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The Osborne Lights are breathtaking! I think the night we saw them my mouth was agape most of the time. You were lucky to be so close to the laundry. Sorry about the noisy neighbors. We love Flame Tree Barbeque and your meal is the one I always get. Your favorite photos is so cool! I love the clouds reflecting in the water. waytogo:
Sounds like a good time at the Ak so far. EE is one of my faves! Always go for the single line as there is usually virtually no wait! Can ride it many times!
Looked like a good lunch at FTB. It's easily my favorite counter service in the parks!
Sorry to hear again about the carts and that inconsiderate family with all their noice from them and their misbehaved kids!
It was my first time at FTB, and I'm sure it won't be my last!
I think I must be just really sensitive to noise!
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The Osborne Lights are breathtaking! I think the night we saw them my mouth was agape most of the time. You were lucky to be so close to the laundry. Sorry about the noisy neighbors. We love Flame Tree Barbeque and your meal is the one I always get. Your favorite photos is so cool! I love the clouds reflecting in the water. waytogo:
I just love that picture! I'm probably going to switch the wallpaper on my phone to that picture!
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That last photo really is fantastic. Most people, when they think of Disney, would never imagine you would have beautiful vistas like that.
At least the nearby laundry was one good thing about the room location. I can't believe all the noise you had to deal with. Golf carts, kneeling buses and noisy neighbors.
I have to say, I'm not a huge fan of the Nemo show. I mean, I like it, but it doesn't wow me like Festival of the Lion King does. Sophia was loving all the shows, though, so she really wanted to see this one.
Wow or not, the people in this show are so talented!
The guy who sang Crush's part was incredible!
After the show, we had to head over to the Safari to use our next FP+. Unfortunately, it was parade time, so the paths were crowded, and we had to wind in and out as the CMs directed us.
I should mention here the one MDE glitch I couldn't fix before the trip started. I had made an ADR for Yak & Yeti for 4:30pm this evening because the park was scheduled to close at 5 this night. Then, I checked back as it got closer to the trip and saw that the park was open much later! So, I had tried to change my ADR to 7pm. I received a confirmation email cancelling the first reservation and second email confirming the later reservation. However, MDE never reflected it. It kept saying I had a 4:30pm ADR. So, as we wound in and out toward Africa, we stopped at Yak & Yeti where I asked the CM to check our ADR. They had it at the later time. Hooray!
We kept winding around and caught glimpses of the parade here and there.
Next: I've never seen that before!!!
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You're so quick with the updates! I just finished responding to the previous one.
I'm in agreement about the Nemo show. I appreciate the hard work and talent, but the show itself leaves me cold. Been there, done that, don't need to do it again. Lion King, however, I see on almost every trip.
I don't think you're being grumpy about the noise at all - I can't believe how much you had to put up with on this trip! I personally think when you're somewhere like Disney, there should be higher expectations on people being quiet, as you know there are going to be families there, potentially with young children. I honestly think any noise after 9:00pm/10:00pm is unreasonable and midnight - well, that just amazes me that people can be like that.
That last photo really is fantastic. Most people, when they think of Disney, would never imagine you would have beautiful vistas like that.
At least the nearby laundry was one good thing about the room location. I can't believe all the noise you had to deal with. Golf carts, kneeling buses and noisy neighbors.
The noise became a real distraction. It didn't keep us from enjoying our trip, but it did keep us from being more rested...well, mainly me. It still boggles my mind that the kids slept through it.
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You're so quick with the updates! I just finished responding to the previous one.
I'm in agreement about the Nemo show. I appreciate the hard work and talent, but the show itself leaves me cold. Been there, done that, don't need to do it again. Lion King, however, I see on almost every trip.
I'm really sad to hear Lion King is going away soon...is that just a rumor or an official announcement? While we were waiting for the show to start, I heard some people behind talking to a CM about it, and she said she heard it was going away in May.
I was asked to do a survey about my AK visit that day, and I said how much I loved the show and hoped it would stay a lot longer!
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So sorry about all the noise in the room
I love doing laundry at WDW - ok I really do not love laundry but I never mind when I am on vacation at WDW, it is my downtime
Great day at AK so far, glad that you were able to change your dinner to later so you had more park time.
Since we were getting such a late start every day, it was great that the park was open later. Thankfully, on this day, the huge crowds hadn't materialized yet, so the park was almost empty during those last few hours.
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I don't think you're being grumpy about the noise at all - I can't believe how much you had to put up with on this trip! I personally think when you're somewhere like Disney, there should be higher expectations on people being quiet, as you know there are going to be families there, potentially with young children. I honestly think any noise after 9:00pm/10:00pm is unreasonable and midnight - well, that just amazes me that people can be like that.
Glad you had a good time at Animal Kingdom.
People will be people, so everyone's concepts of what's acceptable will be different, but it still amazes me that anyone would think that kind of noise is acceptable. Oh well.
As for OKW, I was really surprised that pretty much ALL their vehicles had loud engines! It wasn't just one or two! Now THAT surprised me because you'd think Disney would think of these things!
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It was now time for our safari. I think our FP+ time was for 4pm, and it was probably close to 4:30 by now. The ride was a complete walk on...I mean, not another soul in line. I mean, the vehicle before ours was just getting sent out with no one in it. I mean, our ride vehicle was half empty. Wow. I guess the lateness of the day made a difference, especially since the park was originally scheduled to close at 5. And the parade was going on, so that's where a lot of the people were. Still...wow! This was one of those times where we could've gone through the regular line, done the ride, and then gone back through the FP+ line to do it again! Heck, we could've just kept going through the regular line over and over!
We were seated in the second row. There were two people seated in the first row, and I think one of them was a CM on her day off. I think there were only two more rows behind us filled, and that was it.
Here's where another snafu took place. I forgot to charge my camera battery! This was the ONLY ride where having a 30x zoom was going to be important, and my camera died about 5 minutes into the ride. What a nut I was this trip!
Still, I had my phone, so I did the best I could. Considering the ride wasn't busy, our driver kept moving a lot, which meant we didn't have a lot of "still" time to take good pics. I mean, she was good and gave us great descriptions of things and pointed out where animals were hiding, but she didn't stop a lot. She'd slow down...but as bumpy as the roads are, it still left a lot of my pictures blurry.
This guy was SO close to us! The driver had to warn us, "Please don't touch the ankole cattle even though they're close enough to do so!"
And then came the highlight of the safari. The lions were moving! You heard me...they were actually moving! Not just sitting with their heads up, they were moving, walking around, interacting, it was awesome! Even the driver said she had never seen that before! (Here comes picture overload!)
After the excitement of seeing all this died down, I started kicking myself for not having charged my camera battery! Can you imagine how much better the pictures would've been with my camera?!
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What a great safari, guess that nice late in the afternoon safari paid off as I guess the lions after lounging all day in the sun were up and roaming....so cool.
Even with your phone camera you got some good shots, sorry about the camera battery, I have had that happen a few times over our trips.
Good that you were able to confirm your changed ADR for Y&Y!
Sorry, to hear your camera battery died, but you still got some great photos of the lions on the safari!
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I guess that's the secret to finding the lions up and moving-- no people on the safari! WOW! I've never seen the line empty like that. Perfect. Definitely the wrong time for your camera battery to die, but you still got amazing shots.
Lion King isn't going away. It's just moving to a new theater in Harambe.
I agree on Finding Nemo: The Musical. It has lots of talent and is eye catching, but it doesn't wow me like FotLK. I still enjoy sitting it though. What an awesome safari, especially with the lions being so active. So sorry that you camera was unavailable for it.
What a great safari, guess that nice late in the afternoon safari paid off as I guess the lions after lounging all day in the sun were up and roaming....so cool.
Even with your phone camera you got some good shots, sorry about the camera battery, I have had that happen a few times over our trips.
That's what I was guessing...they must've wanted to get up and stretch their legs after lying around all day!
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Oh wow, what an amazing safari to have - how cool to have the Ankole cattle that close!
It really was close! If you look at the bottom left corner of that picture, you can see part of our truck so that really gives you an idea how close those horns were to us!
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Sounds like a great time at the AK.
Good that you were able to confirm your changed ADR for Y&Y!
Sorry, to hear your camera battery died, but you still got some great photos of the lions on the safari!
I really enjoy AK a lot! I'm sad we weren't able to visit Conservation Station though. Maybe next time!
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I guess that's the secret to finding the lions up and moving-- no people on the safari! WOW! I've never seen the line empty like that. Perfect. Definitely the wrong time for your camera battery to die, but you still got amazing shots.
Lion King isn't going away. It's just moving to a new theater in Harambe.
I'm glad it's not going away! Sophia's glad, too! I still can't believe we saw so much activity with the lions. The driver was really surprised to see so much movement and from all of them at once. It was awesome!
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I agree on Finding Nemo: The Musical. It has lots of talent and is eye catching, but it doesn't wow me like FotLK. I still enjoy sitting it though. What an awesome safari, especially with the lions being so active. So sorry that you camera was unavailable for it.
I'm so glad I was still able to capture some good pictures with the phone!
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