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Old 06-29-2012, 08:55 PM   #1
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Please, for the love of all that's decent...

Ok, we just got back from our five day trip to the World only to find that our A/C doesn't work. In Texas. So I'm writing my litany of issues with people in the park to purge myself before I write my trip report. The following is my request for everyone who ever plans to go to WDW.

Please, for the love of all that's decent:
  • Look before stepping out into the flow of foot traffic. There is, in all liklihood, someone else coming and no one wants to end up in a tangle of limbs, maps and Mickey Bars.
  • Don't force your crying six year old daughter to go on the RNRC. She'll just cry the entire hour that you're in line and you telling her to shut up & enjoy the ride just makes everyone around you uncomfortable and lose you points in the Mother of the Year pagent.
  • If you need to stop and consult a map or have a family conference, please PULL OVER TO THE SIDE. I know this comes a shock, but there are other people in the park and they may be trying to get to Space Mountain before thier Fast Passes expire. Being the person who makes someone else's FP expire is like getting between a crying woman and her chocolate: you just don't do that.
  • Make your teenaged daughter wear a bra. Especially when she's wearing a skin tight shirt. In the rain. What makes this even worse was the girl was with her dad (I hope he was her dad...). I'm a guy and if she were 21 and on the beach I wouldn't mind (shocking, right?) but she was too young and y'all were at a family park and eww.
  • Don't argue/plead/bargin with the cast member when they tell you that your Fast Pass is expired. I understand that you're disappointed but please; have some dignity. If you must do this, please step aside and let those with valid FP's and our dignity go through. K? Thanks. Bye.
  • Tend to your screaming baby. Seriously. Take it outside, give it a bottle or a pacifier or a sleeping pill or something. Please. Pretty please. Most of us are parents. We understand that babies cry but please, for the love of all that's decent, pay some attention to your screaming child because we're hot and tired too and we really don't want to be treated to the Howling Infant Serenade in Eeeeeee! Sharp.
  • If you do need to correct your child, try to employ decent parenting techniques. Telling your six year old that they're "horrible" and to "shut up" makes the other parents' want to adopt your child in order to get them away from you. If you must air your Wal-Mart parenting skills, please try to do it at less than a shout. We'd all appreciate it - especially your child.
  • Welcome to America. We're glad that you're here and we hope that you enjoy your stay in the land of the free. Please understand that Americans have more personal space than most other countries and that an 18 inch space between us and the person in front of us is not an invitation for you to stand in that space to watch Wishes. Thanks.
Ahh, I feel better. Thanks for letting me rant a little bit. I'll write that cheerful trip report just as soon as the AC has been fixed.

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Old 06-29-2012, 09:15 PM   #2
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Well said!!!
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I you..Now only if Disney would print and publish this and post it all over the park's we all would be much happier..And Well Said. AND I HOPE your AC is up and running quick
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I hope to hear about the positives of your trip soon. You came back refreshed and enjoyed yourself though, right?
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I hope to hear about the positives of your trip soon. You came back refreshed and enjoyed yourself though, right?
Refreshed? I never come back from WDW refreshed. I come back tired and happy and we were tired and happy for sure. Don't take the post above *too* seriously: we had a great time. How can you not have fun at WDW?
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Yes, I've come across those people too!! And the ones who use strollers as battering rams, and run you over with their scooter! One of the reasons I avoid busy seasons, and go brave the Florida heat in August, and go in January. Crowds are more manageable.
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Good points and I know I've thought some of those on previous trips too.

Interesting about the personal space, because ironically I quite often find when we're in the States that people invade the personal space I'm used to - and I tend to find they're American, so I guess we must like even more than you guys...
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Well said. I think WDW should have an Etiquette Manual. We are all there for the same reason a Magical Vacation Experience.
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Very well said, and very funny too! Your list really made me laugh. Though it's so true!
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Good points and I know I've thought some of those on previous trips too.

Interesting about the personal space, because ironically I quite often find when we're in the States that people invade the personal space I'm used to - and I tend to find they're American, so I guess we must like even more than you guys...
In my trips to the UK, I've found that y'all do enjoy a wide personal space and, at least in my experience, tend to be better mannered than most Americans. The folks to whom I referred above were from Colombia and clearly viewed any crease in the crowd as viewing space for the fireworks. I don't think they were aware that they were getting too close for comfort, I think that's just how things operate in their culture. I'm willing to bet that, had they known they were infringing, they would not have done it.

Also, I was just trying to have a little fun with my minor frustrations and hoping to make people smile while I ranted.
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Glad you had a great time! We experienced many of the same points on our trip in April!
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I think we all experience those issues, every trip. It's just part of the beast that is WDW. The teen girl with no bra - now that is disturbing. Of course, what people will dress their 5 year old girls in disturbs me!!
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Many of the things you have listed are things I have run across while trying many times to WDW!
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I doubt it - I think they'd still infringe but that's just MO.

As to your rant, I know it's a rant but I smiled about it and outright laughed at some parts of it but that's because BTDT so I can certainly empathize with you. Glad to hear you had a great time otherwise and can't wait to read your TR.
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So true! I think we've all seen things like this at WDW.
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