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Old 10-09-2007, 07:10 PM   #16
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The last time we were in WDW, March 2007 a man in front of us was trying to use a tripod and a CM told him they were not allowed. I would contact Disney before you drag it with you and then find out it's not allowed.
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When you guys focus on the the castle from a good distance away, the camera autofocus should set focus for infinity right?
Not always. I prefer not to preset to "infinity". Not all cameras use infinity for anything past 10 or 20 or 30 feet. In fact, I preset one camera to infinity and every one of my moon shots on a long telephoto lens were out of focus, I had to focus 1/4 turn short of infinity.

As a general rule of thumb, especially at MK, if you get to your preferred spot, autofocus on the castle, then set the camera to manual, that distance is set as a manual focus distance.

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Unless it finds something it likes better between you and the castle That's what my point and shoot would do but not sure about a DSLR. Then you use focus lock to manually lock that focus distance in?
Most all digital cameras work that way. The only difference is whether you have your autofocus set for region (IESP on some cameras) or spot. I prefer to set mine on spot, both on my DSLR and my Point and Shoots, that way I know what it's focusing on most every time...

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I'm just thinking aloud but in theory it would be the same as manually setting to infinity?
See above about infinity, or at least my personal experience with it...

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The catch for a point and shoot vs a DSLR might be that I find my autofocus to be less than reliable at night. Unless I'm close enough to the subject, it hunts at night and then sometimes doesn't always give me what I wanted. Whereas a DSLR is a lot faster and probably way more reliable focus in that spot? Setting to infinity myself takes the unreliability of my autofocus out of the equation.
Trust me, this is a problem no matter what kind of digital camera you have. If the camera doesn't see what it needs to focus, or it doesn't have a good grid projection focus (like Chezp's Sony with it's AVP vs Predator focus screen) distance night focus is a hit or miss on auto....

As most have already said, practice is the best way to learn what your particular camera will or won't do.

While you cannot practice specifically for fireworks without them, you can practice taking night photos which will give you a pretty good idea of how it will work, as well as what types of settings to use...

I do discourage people from using the fireworks setting on digital cameras unless you are using a tripod, or otherwise have the camera set solid. Most digital cameras set the shutter speed to 2 seconds in fireworks mode...
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The last time we were in WDW, March 2007 a man in front of us was trying to use a tripod and a CM told him they were not allowed. I would contact Disney before you drag it with you and then find out it's not allowed.
The only place where the CM's have told someone they cannot have a tripod, that I know of, is at Fantasmic. Because you are sitting on benches/bleachers they cannot allow tripods for safety reasons.

If there are other places you cannot use them, I have not heard of them, and I'm sure someone will let us know...
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The only place where the CM's have told someone they cannot have a tripod, that I know of, is at Fantasmic. Because you are sitting on benches/bleachers they cannot allow tripods for safety reasons.

If there are other places you cannot use them, I have not heard of them, and I'm sure someone will let us know...

We were at Magic Kingdom getting ready to watch Wishes and the man was setting up his tripod and that's when the CM came along and said he couldn't use it. It is for safety reasons. I don't know if thats true or not but that's what happened when we were there.
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I've never had issues with taking my tripod around... neither did my uncle when he would go... (which was almost every year until he went through his battle with cancer )
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Great tip to go to spot meter. Thanks. There's my mistake there. I'm gonna try that a little more. I use manual a lot at night and indoors in low light, but I love to use aperture priority whenever I can.
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I don't have enough ... trust(I guess that's the word) to use the automatic stuff... I like being in total control.
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Wow, that's interesting about the tripod. I was recently there last month and took my tripod everywhere with me and used it a few times without incident. Then when we were on our DCL cruise, I took my tripod with me to every show at the Walt Disney Theatre.

I guess there's always that one CM who may be having a bad day or be low on "pixie dust" LOL!
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I don't think it's a bad day so much as some one that likes to follow the letter of the law... it makes sense in the group situations to not have a tripod... if something -heaven forbid- went wrong that tripod could cause serious harm...

so, it makes sense...
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I can see a CM asking you to move a tripod when you're, say, in the middle of Main St., since it could certainly cause problems in a surge of people. However, if you're someplace off the street and sidewalks (like in the Hub), I can't see there being an issue. I've never been stopped from using a tripod, but I have a faint recollection of being asked to move to another spot.

A way back there was a question about the difference between shutter priority and aperature priority that I'm not sure was covered...

When you choose shutter priority, the shutter speed stays where you put it, and the aperature changes to suit the lighting conditions. This is very useful for fireworks, where shutter speed determines the overall effect (how much streaking/trails/multiple shell build-up you'll get). Different aperature settings have little or no impact on fireworks shots, other than to obtain the right exposure - whatever works is fine.

As to manual focus issues, the last two pro-sumer digitals I've owned have "focus rings" for setting the manual focus (one is a Fujifilm, the other was a Minolta). As far as I know, with those cameras I can't let the autofocus lock in, then switch to manual in order to freeze the focus setting - when I switch to manual I spin the focus ring (it rotates continually) until I get the desired focus. The ring is not marked in feet/meters, and there's no Infinity setting - it's got to be done by eyeball. On an old-fashioned, fixed focal length SLR lens, Infinity really was "infinity." Life was so simple! Turn the focus ring until it stops, and there you are! The problem today is that focus is a slippery slope - it almost always varies as you zoom the lens (and nearly every lens in use these days seems to be a zoom). I'm sure there are also interactions with the autofocus system, since many autofocus lenses do not have a hard, mechanical linkage between the internal motors that focus the lens, and the external mauual focus ring - it wastes too much power to rotate the ring. I remember early Nikon auto-aperature/autofocus lenses, where there were rubber gear tracks on the outside of the lens and gears on the camera body that meshed with the rubber tracks to actually turned the aperature and focus rings. It doesn't work that way these days, does it?
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