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As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.
We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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03-08-2006, 10:35 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer 
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Kissimmee, FL
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 10,481
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I know you guys are getting bored of hearing about this
This weekend is going to be interesting. The horse show where I will see my ex-friends (Mandy & Kim) is this weekend. I have some other friends that I knew through Mandy are attending the show as well…actually only the husband. I contacted them because I wanted to find out if they are going to be there. Much to my surprise I received an e-mail back saying they were going to be there and Irony of all ironies THEY are no longer speaking with Mandy or Kim. Mandy upped the price of a horse they had offered to buy from $7,500 to $25,000 after a half sibling to this same horse won first place in the breed futurity (from a VERY small pool of horses). [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img] Like me my friends were very close to Mandy and she considered Mandy & Kim (like I did) family. For the last week we have been e-mailing back and forth. Mandy is in neck deep in debt and Kim (who is 25 years Mandy’s senior) is trying his best to keep the farm above water…yet they both have high hopes of making big bucks (I think that is the only reason he is staying…because he has dollar signs in his eyes). It makes me laugh because one of the breed associations they belong to made Mandy and Kim judges for the association. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/rofl2.gif[/img] Kim has very little experience with horses. It makes me wonder how legitimate this association is. The business decisions they have made are the opposite of what I recommended when they started. I have worked on breeding farms since I was 10 and worked for over a year at a farm that’s horses were sold for $30,000 -$150,000. I learned so much from that farm owner. When I was in college I was on two horse sale committees and helped in the sale of over 30 horses. Just because I don’t (and never have) owned a business doesn’t mean I don’t know anything.
In hindsight I really think Mandy was threatened by me. I think she knew if I dug any deeper into the breed association she was part of that I would find an ally and run her into the ground. Perhaps it is true….but I don’t have a “sugar daddy” to finance my farm. I am not looking for a father or someone to take care of me I am looking for someone to love me.
In the last couple of weeks I have learned to just let it go because things might look great on the outside but they might be falling apart on the inside…and that is EXACTLY what is happening with Mandy & Kim. When I see them at the Expo (and I will because their booth is right next to my real friends’) and she tries to talk to me I am going to just give her genetic answers. My life is GREAT…I have wonderful friends, a great job, I can afford to go on several vacations each year and I have a Belle and Max [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/grin.gif[/img]
Also the stallion Mandy has that is supposes to be Homozygous for spots is NOT. Last year when Mandy bred the horse to my other friends' horse the foal came out SOLID! Mandy is marketing this stallion as Homozygous...she is going to get her butt sued! The only way you can guarantee a horse is Homozygous is to do a blood test...and it costs ALOT of money to get one done.
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03-08-2006, 11:02 AM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Chapel Hill, NC USA
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Posts: 36,592
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Re: I know you guys are getting bored of hearing about this
Ok, didn't we tell you her life was not as good as it looked like from the outside? Sounds like you are better off out of that relationship for all sorts of reasons.
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03-08-2006, 01:24 PM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Berwick, PA
Posts: 2,931
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Re: I know you guys are getting bored of hearing about this
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In hindsight I really think Mandy was threatened by me.
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I think you hit the nail on the head! She probably realizes that it wouldn't take much for you to figure out that she's in over her head!!
Good luck!
Paula
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03-08-2006, 03:04 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: UK
Posts: 13,146
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Re: I know you guys are getting bored of hearing about this
I am a firm believer in what goes around comes around, it seems that things are not going too well for her at the moment.
Karen
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03-08-2006, 10:03 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Sep 2005
Location: Philadelphia sub- burbs
Concierge Level: 4
Posts: 11,944
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Re: I know you guys are getting bored of hearing about this
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I am a firm believer in what goes around comes around, it seems that things are not going too well for her at the moment.
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[img]/ubb/images/graemlins/yeahthat.gif[/img] I couldn't have said it better myself. Things are not always what they appear, but be the bigger person and don't get sucked into any petty arguments when you see them.
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03-09-2006, 08:42 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Atlanta, GA
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Re: I know you guys are getting bored of hearing about this
It's Karma folks (any Earl watchers out there?)
Just one quick word of advice that will probably be hard to follow. You're doing a great job of moving on. The temptation at the horse show will be to stand there with your friends and yak about how bad things are for Mandy and Kim. It makes you feel better, but in the long run it would just be better not to discuss them at all. Get totally shut of them (hows that for a Southern phrase?) Gossiping will just keep the poison around. Try and focus on the future you and your friends are going to have.
Good luck and enjoy the fair.
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03-09-2006, 02:55 PM
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Living Seas wannabe
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 31,940
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Re: I know you guys are getting bored of hearing about this
Glad to hear things are improving Robin!
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03-08-2006, 08:19 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: The Jersey Shore
Posts: 7,249
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Re: I know you guys are getting bored of hearing about this
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Also the stallion Mandy has that is supposes to be Homozygous for spots is NOT. Last year when Mandy bred the horse to my other friends' horse the foal came out SOLID! Mandy is marketing this stallion as Homozygous...she is going to get her butt sued! The only way you can guarantee a horse is Homozygous is to do a blood test...and it costs ALOT of money to get one done.
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Is the blood test new??
I thought the only "tests" were looking at pedigree, stud book, test breeding.
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03-08-2006, 09:18 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: Kissimmee, FL
Concierge Level: 6
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Re: I know you guys are getting bored of hearing about this
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Is the blood test new??
I thought the only "tests" were looking at pedigree, stud book, test breeding.
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With this type of horse a mare throwing solid colors is NOT good. They get about 50% less for a solid colored horse(how sad is that?). They have been testing for tabanio for for at least 7 years maybe more. It is a pretty extensive test done with blood and pedigrees and coat color charts. The test is not 100% accurate...but to advertise your horse as something...it needs to be proven. Her stallion only has 4 foals on the ground...three colored and ONE solid. I don't think Mandy has enough info on bloodlines to test her stallion properly. Back in Ireland these horses are so loosely bred that many don't even have "real" names...they are called "Bob" or "Old Spotted Mare".
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