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Old 12-28-2005, 11:14 AM   #1
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I can't find any good airfares between Los Angeles and San Francisco at the moment. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img] The only afforable one I can find is at 8.40 at night. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/rolleyes.gif[/img]

As a result, we're thinking of driving between the two cities - has anyone done this and does anyone know if this is do-able and how long it would take?
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Old 12-28-2005, 11:28 AM   #2
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What date are you looking at Cheryl? Is it a one way fare?

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Old 12-28-2005, 11:31 AM   #3
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Well, it's around 400 miles and a long drive, esp if you're not used to US roads. Personally, I wouldn't do it. Those CA interstates are nuts!

Have you checked Southwest Airlines? You can fly from LAX to Oakland, which is I believe right acrosst the bridge to San Francisco. You ahve to go directly to SWA's website (www.southwest.com). They don't show up on other sites like Travelocity, etc.


I checked the train, but that would take forever!
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Oh gosh - we did it when I was 12 and I remember that it seemed to take forever! I remember talking to a family from San Fransisco when we were in Disneyland in 2000, and they said it took them a little over 6 hours.
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We did it when I was 10. I was going to say 6 hours as well.
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Well, it's around 400 miles and a long drive, esp if you're not used to US roads. Personally, I wouldn't do it. Those CA interstates are nuts!

Have you checked Southwest Airlines? You can fly from LAX to Oakland, which is I believe right acrosst the bridge to San Francisco. You ahve to go directly to SWA's website (www.southwest.com). They don't show up on other sites like Travelocity, etc.

[img]/ubb/images/graemlins/yeahthat.gif[/img] Driving in California is, shall we say, interesting
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It's definitely do-able. My Mom and Dad have dne it a few times, and they said it took about 6 hours. You can take your time and take in some sites along the way, though. I would go for it! [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif[/img]
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Re: Are we mad?

Lisa, Sarah and Kris, thank you so much for your suggestion of trying SouthWest. I've just got a price of $153 for the two of us, which is about $100 cheaper than I was getting anywhere else. I think I'm going to go for it, as it's out of Orange County, so we won't have to drive to LAX [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/thewave.gif[/img] and we'll be into Oakland at 4.40, which is a good time, considering we've got an early start the next day to get out to Yosemite.

[img]/ubb/images/graemlins/thanx.gif[/img] again guys for the idea! [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/waytogo.gif[/img]
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Yay for you! Oh, I want to see Yosemite some day!
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Persistence can pay off! [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/thewave.gif[/img] So glad you found it.

I'm still searching and checking every day for a decent rate next month or early February to LA. Can't seem to find what I'm hoping for. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/frown.gif[/img]
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Its been a long time since I've done it, but it can be done. Its about 5 1/2 hours via I-5 (more if you encounter traffic). If you wanted to go the scenic route along 101 which goes along the coast that would be about 6 1/2 hours without traffic. So it depends on how much time you have for travel and if you're comfortable driving in unfamiliar places.

As for airfare, you should check directly with some of the low-cost airlines like Southwest. Another major carrier on the West Coast is Alaska Airlines, they should have lots of flights available. Their website is www.alaskaair.com
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I would check out Southwest and see if they have anything available! [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/luck.gif[/img]
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Cheryl, you might want to check into Amtrak! It's a fun way to see the coast, and you can sometimes find better prices than airfare.
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