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As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.
We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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01-19-2005, 01:59 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer 
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: Near a Tower of Terror at the moment...
Posts: 13,884
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Here\'s another one for you: sewer, septic, or other? and a question for our environmentalists!
I was just wondering about this esp in light of the whole cloth diapers bad for the environment thing...
Do you have city sewer, septic, or otherwise?
When I moved here, we had a cistern (ugh) and septic system that is original to the house (mid-50s) I had to learn to do things differently in the kitchen and laundry and I subsequently (much later) learned that we don't have a regular absorption field, ours goes through a shortened field, the straight into a creek!  Since our house is "grandfathered" we don't have to change anything, but if our septic ever goes bad, we will. We have a fine-tuned system (very bacteria-y!) and have never had to have it pumped. We did have to repair a pipe and the guy told us as long as the concrete holds, we should never have a problem, it's that good)
That said, I have always tried to be very careful what I put into our system, no bleach, no harsh chemicals, etc. I did try some "earth friendly" laundry detergent, but between DH's work clothes and DDs play clothes, nothing was getting clean, so I had to go back to regular. There are people up stream who are in the same boat we are and I'm sure they aren't as careful, but is there anything in particular I should watch out for to not make it any worse than it has to be? |
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01-19-2005, 02:25 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 7,569
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Re: Here\'s another one for you: sewer, septic, or other? and a question for our environmentalists!
For a long time, Gwinnett County had a moratorium on sewer connections. So most houses in Lilburn are on septic. But once the county really began to grow, they started putting in more pipe, and our house was able to connect to the sewer. In fact, our house is one of the newest on the street. Our neighbors' houses are all 25 years old and ours is only 6. Because of the steep lot, you couldn't have had a septic tank, so this lot sat empty until the sewer came in. I'm glad. It's just one more thing I don't have to worry about.
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01-19-2005, 03:05 PM
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Join Date: Jan 2001
Location: Wethersfield, CT USA
Posts: 1,172
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Re: Here\'s another one for you: sewer, septic, or other? and a question for our environmentalists!
we fortunately connect to the city sewer. My parents have septic, and I remember helping my father repair a broken pipe leading to it. Yuck!!
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01-19-2005, 03:16 PM
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Community Rank: Globetrotter 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Bethlehem,Ct 06751
Posts: 3,918
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Re: Here\'s another one for you: sewer, septic, or other? and a question for our environmentalists!
We have a septic system- no sewers in our neck of the woods.
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01-19-2005, 03:22 PM
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Community Rank: Legend 
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: North Central Ohio
Posts: 21,629
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Re: Here\'s another one for you: sewer, septic, or other? and a question for our environmentalists!
We live in a very old house, early 1800's. When my DH bought the house in 1979 it had a shallow well (9'), septic tank and cistern. Every fall the well would go dry and we would have to haul water in. After several years they finally ran rural water out our way, so we hooked up to that. What a blessing that has been!! Worth every penny! Our septic system was installed in the 50's. We had to put a new leachbed in since so many trees had grown in since then.
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01-19-2005, 03:49 PM
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Living Seas wannabe
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Jacksonville, FL
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 31,940
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Re: Here\'s another one for you: sewer, septic, or other? and a question for our environmentalists!
I am on city sewer since I live in the middle of JAX. The only thing I can advise on septics is to do waht you are doing - limit chemicals that would kill your little guys, keep them happy and churning away.
The biggest threat to the stream are phosphates and nitrates causing algae blooms down stream. Doubtful you could find a phosphate free laundry detergent - although lemon joy is phosphate free dish detergent (I know this since it lathers in salt water and was the only soap I could use for 3 weeks when I lived on an island with no water and had to bathe and shave in the ocean)
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01-19-2005, 06:52 PM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Indiana , USA
Concierge Level: 7
Posts: 26,527
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Re: Here\'s another one for you: sewer, septic, or other? and a question for our environmentalists!
Grew up with a septic, and well. really don't like well water.
We now have city water and sewer.
We just bought land in the country - back to well and septic
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01-19-2005, 08:02 PM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Newtown Square, PA
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 23,859
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Re: Here\'s another one for you: sewer, septic, or other? and a question for our environmentalists!
City sewer here, Dawn!  |
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01-19-2005, 08:44 PM
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Community Rank: Navigator 
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Davidsonville, MD
Posts: 6,563
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Re: Here\'s another one for you: sewer, septic, or other? and a question for our environmentalists!
Well and Septic since 1986! And hate it! Country living right outside of the city too!
Our 22 year old system failed, backed up into the house a few times, bubbled up in the yard like oil, 'cept it wasn't oil, or I'd be rich now! We had a septic tank and a dry well, no drain fields. With the new system we have drain fields and a new tank. I know some neighbors diverted their wash water to the yard, but I have issues with that and the damage it does to the Chespeake Bay. I got the big front loader HE washer and dryer that uses very little water and I add that bacteria stuff in a bottle every now and then to the tank. The price of the new septic system was the price of a good used car.
I don't clorox the laundry very often and don't use other chemicals around the house either.
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01-20-2005, 02:01 AM
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Community Rank: Globetrotter
Join Date: Jul 2002
Location: LITH, Illinois
Concierge Level: 1
Posts: 3,205
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Re: Here\'s another one for you: sewer, septic, or other? and a question for our environmentalists!
city sewer.
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01-20-2005, 07:16 AM
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RED SOX NATION!!
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Connecticut
Concierge Level: 9
Posts: 136,854
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Re: Here\'s another one for you: sewer, septic, or other? and a question for our environmentalists!
We have a septic system! No problems yet in 7 years!
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01-20-2005, 03:37 PM
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Community Rank: Trailblazer 
Join Date: Mar 2002
Location: Tuscaloosa, AL
Posts: 5,641
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Re: Here\'s another one for you: sewer, septic, or other? and a question for our environmentalists!
We live within the city limits so it's sewer.
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