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Old 07-21-2004, 12:44 PM   #1
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<font color="purple">...a child with braces. DS Joey will be getting his braces put on Aug.10th. I know that new braces cause the inside of the mouth to get cut up or really sore. My question is how long did it take your child to get used to his/her braces?
We're leaving on Aug. 29th for WDW and I don't want him to be in any pain. Be prepared to see very little of Joey smiling in my trip report pictures! I don't want to postpone getting them put on, because school starts the day after we get back. </font>
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It's been awhile since I've had them, but I recall that initially the soreness/pain lasts for a few days (keep tylenol handy) and the raw-rubbing could be a bit longer. Make sure you get some wax from the orthodontist to put on rough parts. If it continues very long, go back and have them check on smoothing things up. He should be fine, well before you go to WDW. -HiddenMickey
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I agree with HiddenMickey. The pain lasts a few days, but the rubbing in the mouth can last longer. You've got about 2.5 weeks before you go, and I would think by then his mouth would be getting used to them! Oh the joys
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I think he should be fine by then. I haven't had them for several years, but I just remember it hurting a few days.
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He should be fine for your trip to WDW - a suggestion for when he first gets them and his teeth and gums are sore and irritated -- Oragel - it works great for numbing the gums.
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I would think he would be fine. Hidden Mickey is right - make sure the dentist gives him some wax. It can be used to cover the braces in spots where it is irritating his mouth. Sending his way!
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Well as far as getting use to them my DD had no problem with that. They give her this waxy stuff to put on the braces so it doesn't chew up the mouth. However, everytime she went in to have them ajusted her entire mouth would hurt for a couple of days. There were a few times it was so bad she came home from school or I let her stay home. Tylenol or Advil really didn't help her much.
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Definitely get the wax. I remember mine came in a tube, like chapstick. The pain only lasted for a day or 2 for me, each time they were adjusted, but the rubbing happened on and off the entire time I had braces!

I sometimes would use baby oragel on sore spots--it tasted a little better than the adult pain gels.
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<font color="purple"> for all the advice everyone! I didn't know about the wax! I think that will help tremendously!
Most of you said that the actual pain only lasted for a few days, so he should be o.k by the time our trip rolls around.
I can't believe my baby is growing up so fast! </font>
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That should be enough time. My daughter was in pain for a few days and just sore after that for about a week. Make sure you bring lots of wax, and make sure the orthodontist doesn't tighten them within a few days before you leave, and he should be fine. Have a great trip!
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I recommend wax and BABY ORAJEL (or whatever the baby teething stuff is I remember at the time I tried both regular grown up kind and the baby kind... the baby was a good flavor and the grown up tasted like medicine) ASK the dentist about it though as my Orthodontist said to use it but I think it said not to use on open sores (?)
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I have two in braces right now. I them two Advil an hour BEFORE our visit. That jump starts their gums to keep any inflammation down. Then just give more six to eight hours later. Usually after the second day they are fine. Don't leave the wax in your car either, or it will melt! They also suggested a rinsing product called Perioxident, which I found at the grocery store. They used that when their mouths were torn up from the braces on the first week or so. Seemed to help.
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The wax is an absolute godsend for anyone with braces Angie, Joey should be fine if he has the wax.

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Jordie had braces and it was an ordeal every time she had to go have them tightened or whatever they're doing in there. She was miserable, but just for a day or so. I think it took her a weekend to recover when she first got them on. Get the wax! And the Tylenol!
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I have one out of them for about a 2 years (Samantha) and she needed the wax all the time. The next one (11 yr. old) just got them, and she has only used the wax once.
I second or third, the opinion of giving the kids some sort of pain killer. #2 had some Tylonol an hour before appt. to get the braces. She had very little pain. (and she is our "wimpy child")
Our orthodontist has the kids chew gum. She says that the motion of it helps to move their teeth sooner.
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