Why don't husbands listen? - UPDATED 7/21 Post #13 - PassPorter - A Community of Walt Disney World, Disneyland, Disney Cruise Line, and General Travel Forums
PassPorter.com
Award-winning travel guidebooks

   guidebooks   |   news   |   podcasts   |   boards   |   blog   |   worksheets   |   photos   |   articles   |   updates   |   register   |   follow us on


Forums Closed
As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.

So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.

Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.

And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.

We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm​. You made it all happen.

There are other changes as well.

Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:

We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.

It's time to move on and move forward.

PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.

But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.

So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.

And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.

That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.

Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!

If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.

So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!

Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!

Go Back   PassPorter - A Community of Walt Disney World, Disneyland, Disney Cruise Line, and General Travel Forums > PassPorter Villa: Sharing the Fun Together > The Family Room: Family and Friends
Register


Welcome! We're happy you've found the PassPorter Community -- the friendliest place to plan your vacation to Walt Disney World, Disney Cruise Line, Disneyland, and the world in general! You are now viewing the PassPorter Message Board Community as a guest, which gives you limited access. As our guest, feel free to browse our messages by selecting the forum you want to visit from the list below.

To post messages and ask questions, join our FREE community today and you'll get access to tools and resources not available to guests, such as our vacation countown timers, "living" avatars, private messaging system, database searches, downloads, and a special PassPorter discount code. Registration is fast, simple, and completely free. Just click the Join Our Community link.

If you think you've already joined, log in below now. If you don't remember your member name or password, please visit our Member Name and Password Recovery page. You are also welcome to contact us.

Reply
 
Thread Tools Display Modes
Old 07-17-2015, 12:03 PM   #1
CinderAbby
Community Rank: Legend
 
CinderAbby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Eastern Massachusetts
Concierge Level: 3
Posts: 19,490

Post Thanks / Like
Why don't husbands listen? - UPDATED 7/21 Post #13

I got a brand new point and shoot camera about 3 weeks ago and the only feature I don't like about it is the lens cap. It's one of these you just put it on and if you look at it wrong. it pops off. My other cameras always had an automatic lens cap or it had one that "locks" into place (you know the kind, you press the little tabs and it releases). I looked into getting a new replacement cap but I have no idea what size to get because it's one of the P&S with a retractable lens (the outer one is really big, the inner one much smaller). Lenny, on the other hand, found a whole "kit" - a UV filter, some sort of adapter and the "locking" lens cap. So far I've found only 3 reviews for it. One said it didn't fit his camera - which wasn't even a model listed - one said it fit fine and a third said the lens fell right off (I don't know if it's the filter or if it was indeed the lens itself). So based on the lack of info out there (especially at the Fuji site which is the camera brand) I told Lenny I didn't want it. It's a brand new camera and I don't want to screw it up. My very easy, very inexpensive solution to keeping the lens cap in place? Throw a rubber band around the camera and voila, it keeps the cap on and it's easy to move the rubber band to take off the cap when need be. So what does Lenny do last night when I'm at work? He orders the kit I told him I didn't want . And I know only because I checked the credit card statement when I was doing bills this morning and I saw the purchase on there. And of course he didn't mention it - he'll use the excuse "you were at work and I forget to tell you when you got home" (can you tell I've heard it before?). Then, in the next week, all the hours I work are when Lenny is home which means I now have to hide my new camera. I can see him getting this kit and attempting to put it on himself when I'm at work and screwing it up. Why can't husbands listen? Do we speak a foreign language they just don't understand or do they simply not understand the word "no"? If I wanted the cap/filter kit, I would have ordered it the first time we saw it. I'm just not comfortable with the lack of information and his lack of ability. Lenny may know a lot about things from getting information but he can't use a camera. I trust Abby more with cameras and no knowledge of them than I do with him because he touches stuff and then has absolutely no clue what he did. Then I'm left to try and figure it out. Grrr...I just don't need the frustration. And it's not even the first time he's done it. A month or so ago, he ordered a rechargeable battery pack for my old camera so we could stop buying the lithiums. He totally ignored the fact it said for Olympus cameras. I own a Canon. We got the package, I opened it up and he didn't believe me when I said it didn't fit. "It should fit, I don't care it's a different type. It still takes two AA batteries." He tried it himself, they wouldn't fit and then he comes out with "I'll just modify it so it does fit." So yeah, I can see something happening and not having a camera for our Disney trip. It's been a week and I'm really not in the mood for his lack of listening ability. I know he thinks he's doing something nice but usually it doesn't work out. He only remembers the "I did this for you" and forgets the "yeah, but it wasn't right."
__________________
Disney 2018 TR COMPLETED 10-20-18 POSTS 266 - 273
Looking for my previous TR's? Here they are
My Previous TripsAll WDW - July 1980 off property - July 1981 FW - July 1983 FW - July 1985 FW - August 1987 FW - July 1988 Treehouse Villas - July 1990 Treehouse Villas - July 1997 FW - August 2006 AS Sports, 1st time with DH and DD - August 2008 AS Sports - August 2009 AS Sports - August 2010 AS Sports - July 2011 AS Sports - August 2013 AS Music - August 2014 AS Music - August 2015 AS Music - August 2016 AS Music - August 2018 AS Music, Kate (lovewdw2) joined us for the weekend
CinderAbby is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2015, 12:42 PM   #2
Teresa
Community Rank: Legend
 
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Indiana , USA
Concierge Level: 7
Posts: 26,527

Post Thanks / Like
Hide the camera! Can you cancel the order?
I know what he's doing; men have an innate need to fix things for their women. I truly think it's a biological need to care for us. Unfortunately, sounds as if Lenny doesn't quite know when to stop. Hope you come up with a solution Lenny will understand, since he doesn't seem to process "Leave my camera alone"
__________________
My PassPorter Bookshelf
Teresa is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2015, 01:04 PM   #3
cattailmarsh
Community Rank: Scout
 
cattailmarsh's Avatar
 
Join Date: May 2014
Location: Natrona Heights, PA
Posts: 4,363

Post Thanks / Like
Definitely hide the camera or better yet put it in your car so it's with you.

And I believe it is a genetic defect that men possess that causes them to turn off listening & reading skills when we ask them to do/not do something. Not sure why I write a list if you don't follow it - common statement here.
cattailmarsh is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2015, 02:39 PM   #4
GATechGal
Community Rank: Explorer
 
GATechGal's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 7,569

Post Thanks / Like
Take the camera with you and if he asks tell him you wanted to practice with it before your trip.
__________________
-Mary Ann -
Mad for the Mouse


My PassPorter Bookshelf
GATechGal is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2015, 03:12 PM   #5
rella
Community Rank: Trailblazer
 
rella's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Concierge Level: 10
Posts: 5,054

Post Thanks / Like
My DH has and always had "selective hearing"......he only seems to hear what he wants to. He never heard...... "look......but, don't touch" .
__________________
MaryLou
My Countdown Counting down to: next vacation to BWVs
Vacation planned
My PassPorter Bookshelf
My Previous Trips1996 Polynesian (our 1st trip..25th anniversary..ours and WDW)-1997 Polynesian-1998 Grand Floridian-1999 Grand Floridian (became DVC members BWV)-2000 BoardWalk- 2002 Polynesian-2004 BoardWalk (August & November)-2005 BoardWalk-2006 BoardWalk-2007 Old Key West (July) BoardWalk (November)--2009 Old Key West-2011 BoardWalk-2013 Bay Lake Towers-2014 BoardWalk-2015 Old Key West-2016 BoardWalk & Vero Beach-2017 Bay Lake Towers (September) BoardWalk (December)-2018 Polynesian & the Villas at Grand Floridian
rella is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2015, 04:19 PM   #6
Huntermom
Community Rank: Explorer
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Northern New England
Posts: 12,249

Post Thanks / Like
I think there are plenty of men who listen. It sounds like Lenny has learned he can do what he wants without respecting your opinion. Is there a way he can pay for the kit out of his money, not yours or family funds. Is there something he may want that you can say no to-you spent the money on that worthless lens kit. I know it sounds like treating him like a chald, but if he acts like one, what can you do.

I would also make sure I don't share a problem with him-he sounds like he feels he needs to fix things for you.
__________________

Charlie
Huntermom is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-17-2015, 06:16 PM   #7
wheezie
Community Rank: Jetsetter
 
wheezie's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2009
Location: NC
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 2,530

Post Thanks / Like
Is it too late to just cancel the order??

I think a lot of men just don't listen. Good luck!
__________________
me, dh, dd (18), ds2(13), and forever missing ds1
My PassPorter Bookshelf
My Previous TripsOur first trip-November 2012 Coronado Springs :), Our "redo" trip November 2014 Coronado Springs :); Osborne Lights trip Nov/Dec 2015 ASMusic; Em's Sweet 16 trip November 2016 CBR
wheezie is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2015, 02:44 PM   #8
Pris
Community Rank: Explorer
 
Pris's Avatar
 
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: Bennington, NE
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 10,556

Post Thanks / Like
Definitely hide the camera or take it with you. My husband certainly has selective hearing and DD confirms that her hubby does as well. I truly think it is in their genes!
__________________


My Countdown Counting down to: Westbound Panama Canal
Wondering through the Panama Canal
My PassPorter Bookshelf
My Previous TripsApril 2018 Wonder thru Panama Canal~Oct. 2016 POFQ~June 2016 Wonder to Alaska~April 2016 POFQ~Feb. 2016 POR/Magic/POFQ~Nov. 2015 POFQ~June 2015 Magic to Norway~May 2015 POFQ~March 2015 POFQ~Dec. 2014 POR~Sept. 2014 CSR~March 2014 POR~March 2013 POR~June 2011 WONDER to ALASKA~March 2011 POR~June 2010 GF/POLYNESIAN~ June 2009 MAGIC ~ March 2008 POP/WONDER/POFQ ~ Oct. 2007 POP ~ June 2007 CBR ~ March 2007 POP/POFQ ~ June 2006 POP ~ Dec. 2005 POFQ ~ July 2005 POR ~ Jan 2005 POP ~ July 2004 POR ~ Jan. 2004 CBR ~ June 2003 POFQ ~ March 2003 POFQ ~ March 2002 Courtyard ~ Dec. 2001 WL ~ July 2001 ASMU ~ March 2001 POR ~ July 2000 SWAN ~ July 1998 DxL ~ July 1992 DxL ~ May 1989 off site ~ Dec. 1976 Honeymoon off site
Pris is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2015, 04:05 PM   #9
Fortissimo
Recovering VMK Addict!
PassPorter's Club Passholder


What's this?

PassPorter Guide

Community Rank: Explorer
 
Fortissimo's Avatar
 
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Thornton, CO
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 13,087

Post Thanks / Like
First thing that I tell my students when they get an instrument is do not give it to your father to fix!

Every year a trumpet player will get the mouthpiece stuck from dropping it on the floor. I tell the kids do not let your father or anyone else take a tool and try to pull the mouthpiece out because they will damage the lead pipe (where the mouthpiece goes into the trumpet). Every year I will have at least one student who comes in with a trumpet that has a lead pipe that looks like a corkscrew because dad tried to pull the mouthpiece with a wrench.

It's a guy thing.
__________________
My PassPorter Bookshelf
My Previous TripsDLR 6/1976 & 3/1986. WDW offsite Sept. 1985, Jan. 1988, Dec/Jan 1990/91, July, 1999. Enough of the off-site stays! CBR June 2000; PO-R June 2002; POP, CBR and Daytona Beach June 2005; 40th b-day celebration PO-R & AKL, June 2006; POFQ, Daytona (to watch Stinky win Nationals!) and back to the Fish (Dolphin) 2007.
Fortissimo is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-18-2015, 08:05 PM   #10
notjustamom
Community Rank: Globetrotter
 
Join Date: Apr 2008
Location: Long Island
Posts: 3,476

Post Thanks / Like
I would give my left arm to have my DH do something that I asked him not to do.
__________________
Our last WDW trip as a family
My Countdown Counting down to: Magical family Gathering
Let The magic Begin...
My Previous TripsWDW 1982, WDW GF Sept. 1998 honeymoon, WL April 06, WL Nov. 08, BWV March 10, BCV Oct. 11, GF Nov. 13, BWI Jan. '15
notjustamom is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-19-2015, 09:10 AM   #11
rella
Community Rank: Trailblazer
 
rella's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: Massachusetts
Concierge Level: 10
Posts: 5,054

Post Thanks / Like
Quote:
Originally Posted by notjustamom View Post
I would give my left arm to have my DH do something that I asked him not to do.
__________________
MaryLou
My Countdown Counting down to: next vacation to BWVs
Vacation planned
My PassPorter Bookshelf
My Previous Trips1996 Polynesian (our 1st trip..25th anniversary..ours and WDW)-1997 Polynesian-1998 Grand Floridian-1999 Grand Floridian (became DVC members BWV)-2000 BoardWalk- 2002 Polynesian-2004 BoardWalk (August & November)-2005 BoardWalk-2006 BoardWalk-2007 Old Key West (July) BoardWalk (November)--2009 Old Key West-2011 BoardWalk-2013 Bay Lake Towers-2014 BoardWalk-2015 Old Key West-2016 BoardWalk & Vero Beach-2017 Bay Lake Towers (September) BoardWalk (December)-2018 Polynesian & the Villas at Grand Floridian
rella is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2015, 04:20 PM   #12
PhilsEagles08
Community Rank: Globetrotter
 
PhilsEagles08's Avatar
 
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: PA
Posts: 3,144

Post Thanks / Like
Quote:
Originally Posted by notjustamom View Post
I would give my left arm to have my DH do something that I asked him not to do.
You & I both!

Darlene, I'm glad it worked for you! The shoulder strap would more than likely bother me as well... I don't even like purse straps.
__________________

My Countdown Counting down to: 9th Trip to Disney!
On vacation!
My Previous TripsJune 2009 @ AKL, Sept 2010 @ CBR, Sept 2011 @ CSR, Aug 2012 @ Poly, Aug 2013 @ POR Royal Room, Aug 2014 @ CBR w/my fiancé! (My dad went in my fiance's place) Aug 2015 @ CBR, Aug 2016 @ CBR. Aug 2018 @ CBR
PhilsEagles08 is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2015, 01:26 PM   #13
CinderAbby
Community Rank: Legend
 
CinderAbby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Eastern Massachusetts
Concierge Level: 3
Posts: 19,490

Post Thanks / Like
Quote:
I would give my left arm to have my DH do something that I asked him not to do.
I am so sorry for your loss.
__________________
Disney 2018 TR COMPLETED 10-20-18 POSTS 266 - 273
Looking for my previous TR's? Here they are
My Previous TripsAll WDW - July 1980 off property - July 1981 FW - July 1983 FW - July 1985 FW - August 1987 FW - July 1988 Treehouse Villas - July 1990 Treehouse Villas - July 1997 FW - August 2006 AS Sports, 1st time with DH and DD - August 2008 AS Sports - August 2009 AS Sports - August 2010 AS Sports - July 2011 AS Sports - August 2013 AS Music - August 2014 AS Music - August 2015 AS Music - August 2016 AS Music - August 2018 AS Music, Kate (lovewdw2) joined us for the weekend
CinderAbby is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2015, 02:06 PM   #14
CinderAbby
Community Rank: Legend
 
CinderAbby's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jan 2006
Location: Eastern Massachusetts
Concierge Level: 3
Posts: 19,490

Post Thanks / Like
UPDATE:

Well the kit that I didn't want came in the mail yesterday. All I can say is mark the date on the calendar. The kit was what he had ordered but the way it was represented online - and the way Lenny was trying to explain it to me with what the pictures showed - was not how it actually worked . Between the pictures and Lenny, it looked like the adapter was suppose to slide into place but with the way the camera is built, there is no room to slide anything anywhere. When we got it, it isn't meant to slide anywhere - it screws in. And on my new camera, I have two sets of threads - one in the biggest opening and one in the smallest opening where the lens actually is. Needless to say, I was actually wrong. I didn't think it would work at all but it does. The filter then screws into the adapter and then the lens cap can clip onto either the filter or the adapter. We put the adapter on and it fits nicely - not too loose and not too tight (unless I tighten it too much) and the lens cap works great. I looked up some stuff last night and between that and playing with it, I'm not sure how much I'll actually use the filter though. I want good pictures and with the filter, I read - and experienced (on purpose) - that sometimes I can get reflections in the photo. I like to take (flashless) pictures on the rides but I don't know how the ride lighting will affect them with the filter. I also don't want to be putting the filter on and taking it off all day long - something will most likely drop and break if I do (some days my fingers just don't like to work). Using it (or not) will be a time will tell type of thing but in the meantime, as I said, the "results" were not at all what I was expecting. This is definitely a time I will hear about in the years to come "remember the filter kit I got for you? It worked, didn't it?" I so hate when I'm wrong

On another note, not only did Lenny order me this, he ordered me a shoulder strap, a hand grip and a boot. I have no idea what I'm going to do with the boot (give it to him someplace where it hurts ). The hand grip I am excited for as that I know will be a help for me. The shoulder strap I'm not 100% sure about yet though. Yesterday when I was playing with the camera, the strap was bothering my neck but I don't know if it was because of the bigger camera, the cheap neck strap it came with, the heat we had or a combination of all three so the thought of the shoulder strap was very appealing. Will it hang comfortably or where the camera won't get whacked all the time (I'm always walking into things) or will it irritate my neck in other ways are all questions that will be answered once we get it.

I keep giving Lenny a hard time though. I said to him "what, is this to prevent me from getting a Disney themed one on vacation?" He said no but if I have a brand new camera strap, I doubt I'm going to replace it with another brand new one. Knowing Lenny though, he'll have us hitting the camera store first to check them out. That's what he did a few years ago when he saw someone else with a Disney camera strap. He saw it and wanted one for me. He can be so frustrating at times but then he goes and does something nice for me. How can I stay mad at him? I guess I can't, can I.
__________________
Disney 2018 TR COMPLETED 10-20-18 POSTS 266 - 273
Looking for my previous TR's? Here they are
My Previous TripsAll WDW - July 1980 off property - July 1981 FW - July 1983 FW - July 1985 FW - August 1987 FW - July 1988 Treehouse Villas - July 1990 Treehouse Villas - July 1997 FW - August 2006 AS Sports, 1st time with DH and DD - August 2008 AS Sports - August 2009 AS Sports - August 2010 AS Sports - July 2011 AS Sports - August 2013 AS Music - August 2014 AS Music - August 2015 AS Music - August 2016 AS Music - August 2018 AS Music, Kate (lovewdw2) joined us for the weekend
CinderAbby is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Old 07-21-2015, 06:56 PM   #15
Huntermom
Community Rank: Explorer
 
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Northern New England
Posts: 12,249

Post Thanks / Like
Darlene,
It sounds like Lenny can be a pain at times, but it also sounds like this time he tried to do something nice for you. However, clumsy you may have thought it was, make sure you also appreciate it and tell him. My ex would never had done that. (He would have told me to take care of it myself)
__________________

Charlie
Huntermom is offline  
 
Reply With Quote
Reply




Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off

Forum Jump














Please login or register to hide these ads -- it's free and easy!

All times are GMT -5. The time now is 09:40 AM.

-->

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.9
Copyright ©2000 - 2024, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.
Feedback Buttons provided by Advanced Post Thanks / Like v3.4.0 Patch Level 1 (Pro) - vBulletin Mods & Addons Copyright © 2024 DragonByte Technologies Ltd.
(c) 1998-2017 PassPorter Travel Press/MediaMarx, Inc.
Celebrating 19 Years of Making Dreams Come True
Ad Management plugin by RedTyger