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As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.
We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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09-02-2003, 03:11 PM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: North Dakota aka frozen wastelands
Posts: 2,025
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All this talk about the way children are...
dressing nowadays has me wondering...
Is it just me, or have you all noticed that parents seem to no longer be parents, but best friends to their minor children? Not in a good way. I have a very friendly relationship w/my 12 year old daughter. We have alot of similar interests. I sit through movies I dont particularly like because I enjoy spending time w/her, etc. HOWEVER, I am NOT her friend. I am her mother and I make sure that there is that line in the sand...
I have a cousin, who is a TOTAL wimp w/her 3 children. They are spoiled brats who have little respect for others and their entire self worth is wrapped up in their clothing brands, from their socks to their underwear to their jackets. EVERYTHING must be trendy and expensive. They are in so many different activities and have EVEYR NEW THING.
My 84 year old grandmother got dragged down there AGAIN to babysit and chaufeur a few of the children back and forth, because the parents could not be in the 4 different places required of them....
I asked my cousin once why she allowed them to be in so many things and why she spent so much money on them if it bothered her so much. Her answer was essentially that she was AFRAID OF THEM????????
WHAT??????????
Are we just weirdo's up here or what?? My cousin lives in So. CA and they are very into the "keeping up w/the Jonses" mentality, especially when it comes to their children... She was not raised that way, so im confused as to where it has come from w/her children.....
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09-02-2003, 04:29 PM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 17,365
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Re: All this talk about the way children are...
Nah, I don't think you are a weirdo. It's too difficult to be a best friend and a parent at the same time, but along they way I think we can ultimately become best friends with our kids when they reach adulthood if we bring them up properly and with love. I know I had a great relationship with my parents growing up - very loving, but also very instructional, structured, and I knew the rules to play by. Now I've got the most fantastic relationship with my parents - like you would a best friend - and it's the model we use in raising our three great kids! [img]graemlins/love.gif[/img]
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09-02-2003, 05:27 PM
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Community Rank: Scout
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 4,695
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Re: All this talk about the way children are...
I'm so with you guys on this. My parents were not my best friends growing up. They taught me values and respect and they disciplined me. And I think we had a good relationship and we spent a lot of time together as a family. What I don't get is parents who won't discipline their kids and let them get away with everything because "its cute" or "its a phase" or the dreaded "not my kid". Its not our job to be friends to our kids, its our job to raise them to be responsible, caring and respectful adults.
BTW - my parents and I have a great relationship now that I'm all grown up.
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09-02-2003, 08:48 PM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: North Dakota aka frozen wastelands
Posts: 2,025
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Re: All this talk about the way children are...
You both are speaking my mind exactly!LOL!!
I am very close to my mother. I always have been, but up until the time I married and even when I have needed a motherly kick in the hinney since then, my mother was my MOTHER.
Now I can say that my mother is a very close friend, but I think that is because she was my mother and NOT my buddy when I was growing up; doubly hard for her because she was a widow at the age of 29 w/2 children(the same age mine are now [img]images/icons/shocked.gif[/img] ). She had to work a full time job and was heart sick over my dad's death for a long time. She could have taken the easy route and been our "buddy", but she decided to stick it out and raise us right. Im so thankful for that!!!
BTW, my above mentioned cousin, does not have a very good relationship w/her mother. Something to think about I guess.......
Im glad that we had this discussion. We are firm, but we think loving and fun parents. I was about to wimp out on the last week of my son's grounding, because one of the other boys who also got into trouble got off restriction this weekend and my son is the only one left w/a week of restriction. I felt bad for him, but my resolve has now been firmed up!LOL!!
I really wonder if we are not setting up our next generation as a bunch of crybaby wimps who dont like to be told no about anything.......
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09-03-2003, 02:30 AM
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PassPorter Message Board Manager PassPorter Guide Author
Community Rank: Legend VIP
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Maidstone, Kent, UK
Concierge Level: 3
Posts: 190,285
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Re: All this talk about the way children are...
I'm not a parent, but what I have noticed with our teenage niece and nephew is that we still listen to similar music, watch the same movies at the cinema etc. I think the generation gap is getting a lot smaller than we were growing up - can you imagine listening to the same music as your parents did? I certainly can't! [img]images/icons/grin.gif[/img]
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09-03-2003, 10:15 AM
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Community Rank: Navigator
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Tioga County, PA
Posts: 6,102
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Re: All this talk about the way children are...
Our 2 were not raised to keep up with the Joneses. We gave them what we felt was important and that was attention. Keith swam, did track, and was basketball mgr. Scott tried track but found he liked being in the school play more. Both were in band. We went to every home and away swim meet, every home football game (had to support the band), home basketball games, the plays, band concerts etc. I did more than my share of away activities. DH did a lot of Boy Scout things with them. So many parents used the I work excuse.
Children are a product of how they are raised. I remember talking to one of the Boy Scouts. He was getting a pair of the "in" jeans. He thought that by having them he would fit in.
Scott did not fit in but he knew we supported him. He should have been named least likey to succeed at high school. He has succeeded. He has a college degree. Some of those that thought Scott was a looser haven't gone to college and have dead in jobs. Scott had a hard time in school but always knew we supported him.
Having all the toys does not a happy home make. Children need love and support more than all the toys. Never say you're to busy to get involved. Your children will thank you later and you'll meet some really great kids along the way.
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