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Old 04-18-2013, 01:15 PM   #1
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I am flabbergasted!

Here's the story- several weeks ago my two year old sone had a brief (15min) surgery to open a tear duct. We spent about 3 hours at the hospital outpatient eye center then headed home. We were kept in basically a small, curtained area before and after surgery, not even a real room. Son was given no snacks of course and no juice from hospital after surgery. I got the benefits explanation today from our insurance company. The total charge to insurance?

$15000!!!!!

With our deductible and coinsurance we owe $2000. I just cannot believe the charge! In the breakdown, $7000 was for surgery and anesthesia, the other $8000 was facility charges! My dad recently spent 3 whole days admitted to the hospital and his facility bill was only $3600. I know healthcare is crazy but I feel like I am in the twilight zone!!!!

Does this seem crazy to anyone else?
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Old 04-18-2013, 01:19 PM   #2
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Oh my!!!!!! That is crazy! It is ridiculous how much healthcare is!
Can you imagine how much something catastrophic would cost????
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You can always call and inquire about the different charges and see if they've added anything that doesn't belong. $8000 for 3 hours in an outpatient situation seems outlandish.
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That's insane!
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I'm with you on this. About a month ago, I got bit by my own dog. I had kept putting off his rabies shot and we had been at the dog park a few days earlier, so I opted for the rabies vaccines. I got the bill for the er visit and first round of shots. Grand total....$31000. And I don't have insurance. Nor do I have $31000. Granted, like $27000 of the bill was just for the vaccines itself.

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I have already called and asked the hospital to send me an itemized bill. Four years ago my oldest son had ear tubes put in and his adenoids at in one year and I know we didn't pay anywhere close to this. I feel like this is crazy! I definitely feel for those with no insurance but in a way, the hospital is billing more towards the insured when the insurance negotiates a price and they get payment from me, whereas those with no insurance can often negotiate bills to 30-50% of the original. I am just in shock, not that we have to pay, but that the bill is so ridiculous. I mean $6000 for a 20 minute surgery means the surgical unit is billing $18000 an hour! Wish I made that much an hour!
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Charges to insurance companies are outrageous. I keep track of everything insurance is billed for us I have a spreadsheet detailing each appointment. Just out of curiosity (because I can't remember) I just looked at them. The "cheapest" procedure done (back in 2007 to me) was billed 22,000 just for the hospital, not including the doctors, x-rays, etc. The most expensive one was for Lenny when he had a stent put in and that was billed for $57,000 - again just for the hospital, not the doctors or x-rays. Needless to say, at the end of the year our grand total of billed to insurance ends up being $100,000 at the minimum. It was over $200,000 one year so it makes me very glad for not only insurance but the good insurance I get from the town.
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Sorry to hear about your little one needing surgery.

I'm with you on the bills! I had to be admitted twice in the last 4 months. We are broke! Still going to Disney though. I don't care if I have to sell my soul I can't give up my vacation this year! I'm just considering it an investment in preventing many billable hours to a psychiatrist . Too bad insurance won't cover it.
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After my recent medical adventures, I'm not surprised.
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Wow, that's a monstrous bill. Good luck with ds
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I have spent too much time over the last several months at medical appointments, hospitals, etc. Although care is very expensive, it's more than just renting a room. I had a recent procedure done that took about 20 minutes for the actual procedure and I was in the procedure suite for less than an hour. There were three nurses and two doctors there that I am aware of, the room was sterile and filled with what I suspect is very expensive equipment. I also received wonderful care for the hour after while I waited for the sedative to leave me. I can't imagine where I would want the hospital to cut back.

So long as we have so many uninsured, those of us with insurance will see bills that subsidize the uninsured. Don't want to get in a political argument but I am happy with the care I receive and fortunately have good insurance that pays almost all of it.

ETA: my DD in law is a physician in training (2nd year resident) and after all her schooling (and loans) does not make nearly enough money and she is in a high pay specialty. MD's now graduate with 200K in debt and so many specialties require 4-8 years of training after med. school.
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Thats crazy, but I can't say I'm surprised. :
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I'm from Canada where we have health coverage both through our province and through our work insurance. I can't get having to pay that much for healthcare!! What if you don't have insurance or the money to pay?? What happens to you?? And why, when Obama suggests universal healthcare, do Americans vote it down?? I don't understand!!
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