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So as my title states...what to do with a 5 year old bully? He will be 6 in a few months. He is our neighbor and our son loves playing with him. Half the time they play well together but then the other half he acts like he hates my son, who has done nothing to him. We even asked the boy one day what had our son done to him and he said that our son had done nothing to him. It is crazy! I am almost to the point that I do not want him playing with him at all! He acts so mean, screaming hateful words and jumping up and down all toward my 4 year old son. He tells my son he can't come on his property. My son was riding his bike down the sidewalk and this other boy stopped him and made him turn around. (right in front of his own mother and us!) My husband went over and talked to the boy after that and told him not to treat our son that way if he wanted to be friends.
This boy is the youngest of 4 and I am sure this is the way he is treated at home, if not, where would he learn it? His dad told my dh that this boy acted like this is preschool. I am not sure if the parents have ever said anything to him. The parents act like, well, this is just the way it is. The problem will correct itself.
It seems they know he acts like this but they are not around to correct him EVER.
I have said things to him as has my dh but it is not our place to correct him, but I will not let him treat my son this way.
My son says that this boy is his best friend. I do not want him to have such a skewed view of friendship.
What do I do? This boy lives directly across the street from us. My son can not go outside without interacting with this boy.
I like the family and I like this little boy I JUST DO NOT LIKE his behavior! I am so tired of it!
So what should I do? Any advice will be helpful!
Thanks for reading,
Danielle
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Have you tried talking to the the boys mom? Maybe if the two of you sat down and you explained what you have witnessed and your concerns, she might "see the light". It might prevent a bad situation from escalating to a horrible situation. I can just imagine this boy as a teenager making someone miserable. I feel for you and hope ya'll can find a solution.
I think talking to the boy's mom, as suggested above, is a good idea also.
Also, have a real sit-down talk with YOUR son about what it takes to be a good friend. Hopefully if this boy does not mend his ways, your son will soon learn that he (the other boy) is not a true friend and will find a new best friend.
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I think I would talk to your son about how a friend behaves. Then discuss respect for other people and how he should expect it from others. Practice what he should say the next time the little prince next door treats him badly. Obviously, the parents don't care about how their son is behaving, but you could try talking with the Mom. Chances are, if your school system is like ours, they have a no bullying policy, so soon the little dear is going to hear it from his teachers as well.
I hope things improve soon. If not, I hope your son can find a new best friend.
If it is ongoing; I would talk to the boys mother.... Kids get into arguments or even one kid may be in a bratty mood one day.... Things like that happening occasionally; I let go. But when it is happening day after day; I speak with the parents. It's important to not come across as "it's all your ds" (even if it actually is) or the parent just automatically goes into defense mode.... I always try to relay that I know my child does things also and go from there.....
And I correct other people's kids all the time in the neighborhood.... If their parent is not around and they are doing something that is dangerous or negatively affects other children; I speak up... I know all the neighbors well and they don't seem to mind that I get onto their kids..... So, I would continue to do that as well....
I would also talk with the mom and tell her how her son acts when she isn't
around. While you don't feel it's your place to correct him if he is bullying
your DS then it is up to you to say something. If it was my DD I would watch
the interaction and if the bullying starts again I would tell the kid that wasn't
the way friends treated each other and to leave my home.
Teach your DS to say hello/goodbye to this child but do not allow them to play together. When the other kid complains to his mother, she may approach you and you could explain the 'break' in allowing them to play together without being narky.
Probably not the route you want to go, but...
When I was about five years old I had a bully. He was about two years older than me. After taking it for a while I was advised by my dad to hit the kid next time he bothered me. So I did. Punched him in the face and he fell down and hit his head, started crying, and ran home. Next times I saw him he was trying his best to be nice to me. Never had a problem again.
I hope you can find something that works for you and your son!
Why CAN'T you correct him? You can't, of course, use corporal punishment, but you CAN tell him that his behavior is not acceptable to your family, and -- if he wants to continue to play with your son-- he'll have to change his behavior.
Period.
If kids don't learn this life lesson from their own family, they will have to learn it from society.
Why CAN'T you correct him? You can't, of course, use corporal punishment, but you CAN tell him that his behavior is not acceptable to your family, and -- if he wants to continue to play with your son-- he'll have to change his behavior.
Period.
If kids don't learn this life lesson from their own family, they will have to learn it from society.
"It takes a village."
You certainly can try to change behaviors in the children of others when it is necessary. We had boys bullying a neighbor child and I sent them home several times with a reprimand about their behavior.
I admire you for doing something as a parent and not letting this go. My mother did NOTHING when I was a kid and it was bad. So, talking to your child and letting him know that you are on his side is a great thing to do.
Great advice from everyone. Be active and don't let it rest.
We have a bully at school and as parents, after 6 yrs, we are tired of it, and will be getting together and goign to the school board if it isn't resolved in the school this fall. It is a terrible situation. Get it early..honestly, it won't get better. My hubby told my ds to do the same thing as Hidden Mickey suggested if it gets bad enough ( we are talking about defending himself and not carrying it beyond) and eventually, yrs down the road, it might have to happen.
I'd like to chime in here as the mom of a bully. My ds, who is 5, is a pretty good kid. Trust me, he has his moments and he gets along with everyone at school. However, I have a friend who has 4 kids, they are 10,8,5,&4. For the longest time, he would get along great with the 10 & 8 year old, but he was so darn mean to the 4&5 year olds. He would push them and hit them and I was literally at my wits end. I've known these kids mother since we were 7&8, so I had no problem whatsoever with her saying something to Stevie. Finally, I told her son, the 5 year old, the next time Stevie hits you, hit him back. Once he hit him back, that was the end of Stevie bullying him. However, Stevie is still pretty bad with the 4 year old. She is a very needy and kind of "in your face" little girl. Ilove her to death, and when it's just her and Stevie, they get along fine, but he is still mean to her when other kids are around. I've spoken to him numerous times, I've given him time outs, made him leave, nothing seems to work. I see what's going on, and I've tried everything. I hope it's just a phase, but if not, my friend knows I know what is going on and I am trying. We are both just trying to keep them away from each other for a while. Sadly, my son doesn't seem to care that he can't play with her, so keeping your son away from said neighbor might not do much to stop his bullying. I would do as other posters have said, speak to his mother, and if necessary, say something to the boy. There are a million kids out there, and the bully is the one that's going to end up friendless.
In study after study, the solution for a bully always comes from the one being bullied. The parents of either child can't help - you actually make it worse, because by going to the bully and saying "Stop hurting/being mean to/saying mean things to my son" you tell the bully - "My child can't stand up for himself, he's weak." And you give him, in a weird way, permission to continue to bully your son.
We dealt with a bully - twice. The first time, we tried to help. We took our DD (Kathryn) to counseling. We talked - a lot. We tried the 'talk to the bully and her parents, etc' method. It didn't work - the bullying got worse, to the point that we eventually sent Kathryn to another school.
Fast forward a few years, and our youngest DD was being bullied by a boy - we talked to her about how it's not acceptable, we tried the method of going through the school, etc. and nothing worked - again. Then, Lauren asked to take karate. SHE decided this was going to be her course of action. She trained for 6 months, and then, one day she warned Luke "Don't ever hurt me again or I'll hit you". He hurt her again, and she laid him out on the playground! He cried in front of the students, and decided Lauren was not the person to pick on.
DH and I were talking about this yesterday - and decided that allowing Lauren to solve it (giving her the tools, but allowing her to handle it on her own) did more for her self-confidence and self-worth than trying to solve Kathryn's bullying for her did.
My advice: teach your son that a good friend doesn't treat others like that, teach him to stand up for himself "You will not treat me like that - I'm going home", find other children for him to play with, and then - if he still wants to be friendly with the boy, let it go.
They're kids. They're going to argue and fight, and make up and play nicely - all in the course of a day, if not an hour! Honestly, I think people are way too involved in their kids' lives anyway. Think back to when you were a child: I know that my parents didn't interfere with my friends and I when we argued or when we were mean to each other, we solved our own issues. We learned to not be mean because then the other kids wouldn't play with us. We learned to be caring because we knew if we were, the others would play. We learned to play fair and share because if didn't, no-one played with us. We fought, oh yes we fought (there were 2 girls in the neighborhood and over 20 boys - my sister and I learned to fight very early on)! But we also played and loved and laughed. All without a single 'talking to' by an adult, and with no adult 'keeping an eye on things'.