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Here's an article about the FL legislature considering a bill to make it easier to prosecute those that distribute fliers in hotels. Disney is backing the bill, as they claim these fliers are scams to obtains guests' credit card information.
I don't think I've ever had one of these fliers under my hotel room door before. But's it's definitely something to keep in mind - play it safe with your personal info!
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These fliers appeared under my door almost daily at BWV on my most recent trip as well as past trips. I brought one down to the front desk and they said they're aware of the problem and are trying to stop it. Not only is this a security risk, with these unauthorized people wandering the halls, but when you call to order, they ask for your credit card info and then the pizza never arrives. She asked that if I'm ever in the room when a flier is delivered, to call the front desk asap and they will send security to the floor.
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I had read about this (not sure where now) and didn't really think much about it.
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They tend to be more prevalent in some Disney resorts than others -- I've seen them in the villas mostly.
This actually doesn't surprise me because when you think about it, where are the people who have more of an income (possibly more jewelry hanging around, maybe more computer stuff, most likely larger credit card available balances) going to stay? Certainly not at the Value resorts where we stay (and where we've never seen fliers for anything in the room in our trips there). I'm not trying to stereotype as I know some people save for years to go and stay at places like the Villas but that's probably the way these scammers think - go to where they think people will have more money.
Well, the pizza scammers aren't "breaking and entering" types -- they're "steal your credit card info" types.
I think the prevalence is more likely due to the villa guests being people who have a room that lends itself to having dinner around a table (like in the one- nd two-bedrooms.) Also, the fact that they have internal corridors -- rather than external corridors where CMs could see them and take action from a central courtyard.
It's a shame -- because there are legitimate pizza places that cannot deliver (or cannot get guests to order) anymore because of the scammers. And Disney's internal pizza delivery is not tasty, IMHO.
Well, the pizza scammers aren't "breaking and entering" types -- they're "steal your credit card info" types.
The pizza people maybe but I do remember one of the things mentioned in the article I read was sometimes the people with the fliers look for rooms inadvertently left unlocked. I actually didn't think that was possible nowadays but maybe it's just the places I stay at where the door is always locked from the outside.
Well, I do know that people have expressed concern that sometimes the mousekeepers would wedge a door or two open with the security latch bar. But recent reports are that the mousekeepers have been instructed to discontinue this practice. They wedge their cart in the doorway and only work on one room at a time. A thief would have to be pretty ballsy to go into a room where the mousekeeper was inside... (tho not impossible if they were ready to lie and say it was their room.)
Hopefully, the new policy keeps the roaming B&E'ers from trying to sneak into rooms.
Thank you for sharing. We've seen fliers before but never ordered. I had no idea about the scam and will be sure to report the fliers if i'm in the room when one arrives under the door.
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We got one of these fliers in our door last month at CSR. There is actually a notice (I can't think where it was...maybe on the little security tips list in the room?) that highly suggests guests who wish to order pizza to do so from a nationally recognized company (doesn't give any specific examples, but like Pizza Hut or something) because of all the scams happening with the fliers. It's nice that Disney is on top of this, and while I do feel bad for smaller local places that won't get the business, I think this is a good bill.
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I found them every day under my door at the Polynesian, and once at POR. With all the food choices you have at WDW, why would you buy a pizza from an unknown restaurant? But even if you decide to buy, make sure you don't give them your credit card number. If they're legit, they will let you pay cash when the pizza arrives.
I'm glad they are doing something about this. From the articles I've read it has really impacted the legitimate local pizza places that have lost business. Disney delivered pizza is the pits. I hope that they can get this cleaned up and maybe legitimate pizzerias can recover.
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We got one almost every night under our door at Poly last month. One day I even saw the guy handing them out. I wish at the hotels with sep. buildings, like the poly, they would lock the outer doors so you need a room key to get in.
There was a note from Disney by the phone warning about the scam.
There used to be quite a lot of these flyers passed at SSR for actual pizza places--I know-we tried all of them (and paid cash for our pizzas) The bad news is that all of these places have probably gone out of business. The good news--not a single one of the pizzas we ordered was worth eating . . . now we make sure we have snacks delivered for late night munchies.
It's a shame -- because there are legitimate pizza places that cannot deliver (or cannot get guests to order) anymore because of the scammers. And Disney's internal pizza delivery is not tasty, IMHO.
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We got one of these fliers in our door last month at CSR. There is actually a notice (I can't think where it was...maybe on the little security tips list in the room?) that highly suggests guests who wish to order pizza to do so from a nationally recognized company (doesn't give any specific examples, but like Pizza Hut or something) because of all the scams happening with the fliers. It's nice that Disney is on top of this, and while I do feel bad for smaller local places that won't get the business, I think this is a good bill.
During our stay this past December we got flyers every day at SSR, and many times more than one. The concierge desk told us they maintain a list of reputable delivery places (not just pizza) and all you had to do was ask for it. They make no warranty regarding the quality of the food, just the fact that the restaurant exists and is a legitimate place of business.
DH kept a couple of the flyers and though the flyers looked identical, the name would be different....and sometimes they would still have the same phone number.
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