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Old 09-26-2007, 01:52 AM   #1
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How much sleep do you need a night?

A friend was saying to me that she can cope with five hours in a night. I can't - I need at least seven or eight hours or I feel terrible the next day.
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I do best with 9, can get by with 8, spent many years with 3-5, but I hated the feeling of always having to "push through".
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I actually need 8. I only get about 7 on most nights, if I'm lucky.
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Need: minimum 7 hours
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Get: 6-7 hours if I'm lucky.

However, the night before any Disney trip, I seem to be able to cope with only 4 or 5 hours? I wonder why that is?!
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Ditto I am with you, I need at least 7, I just don't function well with anything less....
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I need at least 7 hours too or I'm a litlle Grumpy . However as ofkilter_DineyMom said the night before a trip I'm lucky to sleep for more than 4-5 hours
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This is so weird - I was listening to the radio this morning and they were talking about how much sleep one gets, and I thought about posting the question on here!

I usually get between 7 - 8. I can go on 6 - 7 just fine. I've learned that if I get too much sleep (8 hours or more) then I feel groggy and gross. For example, I went to bed early last night b/c I was so tired (about 10:15) and woke up at 5:45 ,ready to get up - 30 minutes before my alarm goes off. 7.5 hours if probably perfect for me, but I love sleep so much, I get in the bed earlier if I can
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I have never needed alot ofsleep. I am good on 5-6 hrs a night. Even on the weekends, I wake up on my own at my regular time (6am) I can usually go back to snooze for an hour or so. But by 7, I am up.
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Yesterday in the news they said people who only sleep 5 hours have a much increased risk of dying from heart problems, I think it was partly due to high blood pressure. Anyway, I feel best with 7 hours, wish for 8 and on occasion, get 5 or 6.
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I need 7 or 8 hours too and I normally get that.
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I am good on 7-8 hours a night and normally get 6.5 to 7.
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I can get by on 5-6 hrs a night but I MUST have my afternoon siesta or it throws me totally off...
My family thinks it's odd that every day around 1pm I must nap.. it's only a 10 minute power nap ( usually) but I wake up refreshed & ready to go for the rest of the day
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I usually get about 7-1/2 or so, although I can get along on less for a few days in a reow; I think I'd like 11 or 12 some days
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