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As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
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We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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01-19-2006, 09:07 AM
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Community Rank: Trailblazer
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Location: Maine
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Disney buying Pixar? Yes, it\'s true!
http://money.cnn.com/2006/01/19/news...ex.htm?cnn=yes
I have mixed feelings.
Maybe Steve Jobs can bring Disney movies back to their level of excellence and put a stop to all the low budget, crappy DVD sequels and the out-of-control mass marketing of merchandise. But since he runs two companies already, would he be able to devote enough time to Disney?
Wouldn't it be great if they made John Lassiter President of Disney animation?
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01-19-2006, 11:25 AM
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Community Rank: Legend Extraordinaire
Join Date: May 2004
Location: Ohio Football Hall Of Fame
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Re: Disney buying Pixar?
I think it would be great!!!
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01-19-2006, 01:46 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Ann Arbor, MI USA
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Re: Disney buying Pixar?
Putting Lassiter in charge of Disney Animation could be really great. It's about the closest thing to defrosting and reviving Walt that I can imagine. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
As to Steve Jobs... He'd be in line to become Disney's Chairman of the Board, but would he be stretching himself too thinly, since he's also chairman of Apple Computer? If we can judge by the way he's run Pixar and Apple Computer, it's probably both a good thing and a bad thing. Good (or great) in that he really understands how to encourage creativity and innovation, and understands the value of nurturing customer loyalty. Also great (for the shareholders) in that he knows how to charge top dollar for those products, and to be very selective about how (or even whether) the company licenses its products to other companies. He's probably as close as you can come to a cross between Walt and Roy Disney. Bad? From the consumer/Disney loyalist perspective, some of those good things might hurt us really bad in the wallet. [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/wink.gif[/img]
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01-21-2006, 07:56 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2004
Location: UK
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Re: Disney buying Pixar?
A very interesting read, [img]/ubb/images/graemlins/thanx.gif[/img].
Karen
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01-22-2006, 08:50 PM
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Community Rank: Adventurer
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: St. Marys, PA (Too far from tigger!)
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Re: Disney buying Pixar?
I read that on Yahoo the other day. I'm wondering if Pixar stock will go up or down if Disney buys them. I was thinking about buying a share of Pixar for my DD's birthday.
Lori
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01-23-2006, 12:29 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Ann Arbor, MI USA
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Re: Disney buying Pixar?
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I read that on Yahoo the other day. I'm wondering if Pixar stock will go up or down if Disney buys them. I was thinking about buying a share of Pixar for my DD's birthday.
Lori
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You're lucky, in that you won't be risking a whole lot. Now, if you were buying 1,000 shares...
Based on current share prices, you can expect to get two to three Disney shares for one share of Pixar.
Theoretically, Disney can swallow Pixar whole without a belch - the Disney company's market capitalization is over $48 billion, while Pixar's is about $7 billion, and in terms of real value, Pixar's capitalization is way higher than it should be. That doesn't mean the market wouldn't respond emotionally for a while - over-penalizing Disney share prices if they think Disney is paying too much, over-inflating Disney share prices if they think acquiring Pixar will have miraculous benefits.
The Price/Earnings ratio at Pixar is currently close to 50% (way high), while Disney's is about 21%. I can't see Disney paying a whole lot more than the current price. Not only would there be huge criticism from Wall Street and Disney investors, but Pixar shareholders would be getting a great deal. In terms of real value, all things being equal, a Pixar share shouldn't cost any more than a Disney share (and probably less). If there was less "irrational exuberance" about Pixar, the price per share would be much lower. Getting two or three Disney shares for a Pixar share is a great deal.
I can see Disney shares dropping by about 10% on "dilution" - more than that is inappropriate, imho. Pixar shares will probably go up, should rumors of a sale become stronger.
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01-23-2006, 04:00 PM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
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Location: Berkeley, CA
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Re: Disney buying Pixar?
Interesting article from our local paper. (SF Chronicle) Good list of prons and cons for Jobs.
Pixar article from the SF Chronicle's Business section.
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01-23-2006, 10:48 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Ann Arbor, MI USA
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Re: Disney buying Pixar?
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Interesting article from our local paper. (SF Chronicle) Good list of prons and cons for Jobs.[/url]
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The only response in that article that puzzles me is the analyst who thinks Jobs as Disney Chairman would put a crimp in iTunes growth over at Apple.
Everyone in Hollywood has been in bed with everyone else over the years. And when they're not doing that, they're constantly making deals with each other. :::rimshot::: Sharing production costs on a film that seems too risky for one studio to swallow is just one example (Disney owned a piece of Warner's Lord of the Rings through Miramax's earlier deal with Peter Jackson, fer instance). Often, you'll see Buena Vista Video distributing DVDs by Warners, Fox and other studios. ABC carries network shows produced by Warners, the WB carries Disney-produced shows, ABC's networks (cable and broadcast) are carried on Warner Cable, and so it goes.
What's more, Jobs being involved with a deal at one company on which he serves on the board by law must be independent of his role at another company where he serves on the board. Everyone in business understands this.
So long as iTunes remains as successful as it is, everyone in the entertainment business will be lining up to do business with Apple, and Disney has to be treated with the same arms-length relationship that every other company receives. Otherwise, it's deuling entertainment and securities lawyers at 10 paces - not a pretty picture at all.
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01-24-2006, 11:06 AM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
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Re: Disney buying Pixar?
The deal is basically done. Jobs gets on the board and Lasseter becomes head of Disney animation.
http://www.variety.com/index.asp?layout=...yID=18&cs=1
You might not can read the entire story since it's a paysite but keep an ear out.
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01-24-2006, 11:26 AM
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Community Rank: Globetrotter
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Location: SE Ohio
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Re: Disney buying Pixar?
I heard they bought it yesterday for about $7 billion.
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01-24-2006, 11:48 AM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
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Re: Disney buying Pixar?
$59 a share is the current deal. I heard the 7 billion dollar number yestday too but Variety is about as official as you can get. $59 a share might end up close to 7 billion though. Not sure.
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01-24-2006, 06:44 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Niagara Falls
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Re: Disney buying Pixar?
Here's the link to the CNN article. I heard the news on CNN a few hours ago.
http://money.cnn.com/2006/01/24/news...ex.htm?cnn=yes
I think it's a good thing. I like John Lasseter!
I'm glad this came to a resolution.
Jennifer
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01-25-2006, 11:31 AM
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Community Rank: Traveler
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: NJ
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Re: Disney buying Pixar?
As a long-time fan of both Apple's and Disney's products, this deal is intriguing. Apple always seems to be steps ahead of its competitors in innovation, even though its market share has been historically low. The user-friendliness of the Macintosh is now being seen in a different form via the iPod and iTunes. I always thought that EPCOT was what Apple is all about, whether at Innoventions or perhaps its own pavilion. Both Apple and Disney have always placed the highest emphasis on customer service--this is what keeps us returning for vacations, and what keeps us buying the Macintosh. Even though the deal was with Pixar rather than with Apple, it should be interesting to see the impact.
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