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There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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10-07-2005, 09:03 AM
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Community Rank: Trekker
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: New England
Posts: 1,307
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What is up with the Disney bus drivers???
I'd first like to say we had a blast BUT i was wondering if anyone else has had any recent experiences with the disney bus drivers messing up on their route???
ALL the bus drivers were grumpy, many never made any announcements while we were on the bus and half the trips we took the bus drivers made errors in their route. One guy turned right too soon and we drove through a gas station, he started out grumpy but then laughed that was the first time he had taken the wrong turn in 10 yrs of driving.
Then another guy missed the bus entrance to the hotel, then he missed the next bus entrance and one of the passangers had to tell him where to go, as we got off we hoped he was able to make it back to the bus station.
After a while it became a joke with us, would we make it to the hotel and was the bus driver going to be grumpy or not.
We had never experienced this before, it was actually quite the opposite of what we had experienced on our 4 other trips there.
Considering how much money you spend there, seems they would want to be sure to hire friendly drivers.
I'd like to write a letter but don't know where to send it.
Noreen
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10-07-2005, 09:06 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: nyc
Posts: 9,580
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Re: What is up with the Disney bus drivers???
nope, never had any problem remotely like that. a couple didn't say anything, but most were very nice, had a good conversation with a few of them (including one who almost didn't let me on because the bus was full, but he made some room). and one just 'plane' crazy.
the only complaints i have about the bus system is that if i had known the value resorts were always the furthest stops, i probably would have sprung for a moderate.
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10-07-2005, 09:52 AM
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Community Rank: Visitor
Join Date: Oct 2005
Location: Hamilton
Posts: 3
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Re: What is up with the Disney bus drivers???
Just returned Sept 8-15 and never had a cross or confused bus driver all the time we were there. I was wondering does anyone know how many buses are in the Disney fleet, including the airport run as well as between parks?
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10-07-2005, 10:12 AM
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Community Rank: Trekker
Join Date: Jul 2005
Location: New England
Posts: 1,307
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Re: What is up with the Disney bus drivers???
must has just been a fluke, cause we had never had this problem before either. Surprised me though that they were ALL grumpy or had very little to say and few announcements, one guy didn't even announce what stop we were at.
Noreen
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10-07-2005, 10:39 AM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Michigan's Upper Peninsula
Posts: 27,691
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Re: What is up with the Disney bus drivers???
I didn't have any grumpy drivers our last trip. In fact, we sat in the front on one bus from DD to CSR and the driver talked my ear off the entire way. He kept telling every person that got on the bus 'Coronado. Coronado. Coronado Springs. Are you going to Coronado?' Then he told me he did that b/c every time there's bound to be someone get on the bus going to somewhere like AKL (b/c they share the same bus # stop at DD) Well we left Marketplace and when we pulled up at West Side, one couple came up from the back of the bus and asked 'Will this bus get us to the Animal Lodge?' I was laughing so hard.
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10-07-2005, 12:22 PM
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Dopey's biggest fan!
Join Date: May 2004
Location: China Spring, TX
Concierge Level: 9
Posts: 26,975
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Re: What is up with the Disney bus drivers???
Last October, we had the longest ride back to All Star Movies EVER. I swear it felt like at least 45 minutes . . . and I am sure it was NOT just because we had just left MNSSHP! We had a driver that confessed to us, as we pulled up to the bus stops, that "the reason the trip back from the MK was so long was because I forgot where I was going and got lost! I am truly sorry for that!"
He was very nice and very apologetic for that . . . and while we haven't come across any bus drivers who were particularly "unpleasant" we have had our share that just don't really converse much with the guests. Even a few of those "quiet" bus drivers have told us to "have fun" or "have a great day" as we exited the bus, though!
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10-07-2005, 12:26 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2005
Location: nyc
Posts: 9,580
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Re: What is up with the Disney bus drivers???
the buses that operate for DME are owned and operated by Mears, so not sure how many there are.
not exactly sure how many Disney Transport buses there are either, but it's in the neighborhood of 235.
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10-07-2005, 01:36 PM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Dec 2004
Location: Louisville, KY
Concierge Level: 7
Posts: 18,767
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Re: What is up with the Disney bus drivers???
Have only had one bad experience with a bus driver and that was on our last trip in Arpil. He had to come to stop really quick (which is hard for a bus to do) and when he did, a family that was standing ended up falling includng two kids about ages 4 and 5. The bus driver didn't apologize or stop to see if they were okay.
We have had some quiet drivers but have also some that were GREAT! On my honeymoon in 2000, we hopped a bus to Ft. Wilderness for HDDR and the guy kept saying this was the bus to Tampa knowing that it would panic me becuase this was my first trip to WDW in 18 years. (we were the only ones on the bus) Then in April, we had a guy that stopped for us at MK trying to get back to CBR since DH left his wallet in the room. He radioed dispatch and got permission to take us back to CBR before he started his normal route for MGM.
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10-07-2005, 02:49 PM
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Community Rank: Traveler
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: connecticut
Posts: 358
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Re: What is up with the Disney bus drivers???
No...never had a problem with the ANY bus driver in Disney...we've even had a few who asked trivia questions and gave out stickers to the winners.
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10-08-2005, 09:34 AM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Apr 2001
Location: Louisville, KY
Posts: 2,586
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Re: What is up with the Disney bus drivers???
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a family that was standing ended up falling includng two kids about ages 4 and 5. The bus driver didn't apologize or stop to see if they were okay.
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I fell into an aisle on a Disney handicap bus with raised seats a couple of years ago at our resort bus stop. Someone yelled to the bus driver to wait because I was hurt. The bus driver never got out of her seat nor asked if I was okay. My family helped me get off the bus and went for help in the resort lobby. It turned out I had broken my wrist. I was told later when I wrote to Disney about the accident, that the bus driver is not equiped to help the passengers. Come on - she could have asked if I was okay and radioed for help. That was the last I had ever heard from Disney on the subject. I hope they spoke with the bus driver. I won't sit in the back of those buses with the raised seats anymore!
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10-07-2005, 10:59 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Jan 2003
Location: Toronto, Ontario, Canada
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 7,386
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Re: What is up with the Disney bus drivers???
Noreen, I'm sorry that you ran into so many grumpy bus drivers on your trip but it sounds like perhsps you just had exceptionally bad luck. In all my trips to WDW, I've yet to have any really negative experiences with any of the bus drivers and many of them have been truly magical. I'll never forget a few in particular who conducted trivia games or sing-songs en route and one inventive driver who reminded all the kids on the bus to make sure they leaned into the turns whenever we turned right or left to help her out. And of course my favorite driver of all was the one who, out of the blue, game me a gorgeous Cast members Thumper pin as I was boarding the bus. I only hope our next trip in November continues this tradition of excellent Disney bus drivers.
Joy
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10-07-2005, 11:32 PM
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Community Rank: Adventurer
Join Date: Feb 2001
Location: Gilbert, AZ, USA
Posts: 922
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Re: What is up with the Disney bus drivers???
I only had one mildly grumpy driver on my trip 9/21-29/05 and he ended up being pretty good once he got going. I did notice however that he was a very impatient driver !
I didn't have one driver the entire time say anything except the stop. I always thanked them when I got off and I always got a smile and a thanks back, but none of them were overly fun or told stories or trivia or anything like that.
I noticed that many of the drivers were being very strict about people not standing and I actually had one driver that refused to go until everyone was sitting down - there were enough seats but we had to squish together a bit.
There was one driver that pulled up at MGM that was going to Epcot. I was waiting with two other families to go back to the Contemporary and the driver stopped at our stop and got out of the bus and asked if everyone was ready. We all kind of looked at each other and asked aren't you going to Epcot? She said yes. We then told her she needed to be up one stop and she said that's strange I wonder when that changed. I assumed that it hadn't changed, but at least she was pleasant about it. She then pulled up to the correct stop.
I can't really complain about the service. I never waited more than 15 minutes for a bus and I didn't have any drivers get lost.
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10-08-2005, 12:26 PM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Jan 2002
Location: Florida Big Bend
Posts: 17,133
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What is up with the Disney bus drivers???
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I'd like to write a letter but don't know where to send it.
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10-09-2005, 09:18 AM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: Florida
Posts: 2,493
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Re: What is up with the Disney bus drivers???
In September we had every kind of bus driver. Starting with the ones that said nothing at all to the one who sang to us on our way back to CBR after EMH. (She was a real hoot-in fact we didn't know whether to laugh or feel sorry for her. ) We had one guy who had a computer generated speech (at least that's what it sounded like to me) that included a blurb about not talking to the driver while bus was in transit. We concluded that maybe he was new and really needed to concentrate ? We also had some drivers that gave lots of trivia about the parks or the resorts. I guess it grew to be a little bit of expectation as to what kind of driver we would have on our next bus ride. No matter what the driver was like we made sure to say thank you as we exited the bus.
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10-09-2005, 11:27 AM
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Faith, Trust, Pixie Dust
Join Date: Jul 2004
Location: Connecticut
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 34,171
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Re: What is up with the Disney bus drivers???
We didn't have any problems at all! Most of them were very funny and talkative.
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