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So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
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We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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10-01-2004, 01:30 PM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 2,584
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Why do they make it hard for us to love them?
My DH and I got together 8 years ago, right after unsuccessful marriages. DH's mom was pretty bad about his divorce, siding with his ex--his mom didn't really even know his ex as mom lives out of state and only met the ex twice. It has taken 8 long years to get his mom to accept me & my son as family.
New fork in the road--politics. I'm not going to make my affliations, or hers, known here as they are irrelevant to this issue. She knows that DH and I are of a different mind than she is, so she insists on sending us every single negative email she can to prove why she is right and we are wrong. And, unless you've been living in Fantasyland (and don't we all wish we could ), you know there is a lot of negativity out there right now.
I have tried to ignore her blatant rudeness...until this morning. She sent us another email, painting "our guys" in a very bad light and "her guys" as heroes. I responded by saying, "How interesting that only the *** come out smelling like roses. What a load of bunk!" I got a reply from her almost instantly asking if she'd hit a raw nerve. I about lost it.
It would be easy for me to tell my family members, "Look, we don't agree and let's agree to disagree." But if I say that to DH's mom, I'll start a war and I don't want her to hold it against him. But, it's soooo hard for me to ignore it and let it go!
How would you handle it?
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10-01-2004, 01:45 PM
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RED SOX NATION!!
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Connecticut
Concierge Level: 9
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Re: Why do they make it hard for us to love them?
Do you have an email blocker? I'd consider blocking her messages, or if you don't want to do that, have them sent to the "junk" folder, then you can just delete them.
I wouldn't even respond, because now she's getting the response that she wanted. I'd just delete them as they come in, and pay no mind to them. Hopefully that would get her more aggravated, as if she asks if you got the emails, you could say "no I haven't"!
Good luck Sounds like you are treading on dangerous grounds!
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10-01-2004, 01:55 PM
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Community Rank: Trekker
Join Date: Jun 2003
Location: Annapolis, MD
Posts: 1,200
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Re: Why do they make it hard for us to love them?
That's what I was going to say- she probably justs wants a reaction from you so don't give her one. I would just delete the e-mails and if she says anything I'd say "Oh, I didn't remember any e-mails, I've been having some computer problms".
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10-01-2004, 02:07 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Chapel Hill, NC USA
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 36,592
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Re: Why do they make it hard for us to love them?
I agree. I'd just not read the emails and not respond to them in any way. Keep politics out of your language when it comes to her. And if she were to bring it up during a phone call, just start talking about something completely different (and if that doesn't work, just excuse yourself off the line). And if she starts talking about it in person, just walk away. I think eventually she'll get the message that you don't want to discuss politics with her at all.
Just go out an vote your own conscience next month. You can at least cancel her vote out!
-HiddenMickey
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10-01-2004, 02:26 PM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Las Vegas
Posts: 2,584
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Re: Why do they make it hard for us to love them?
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Just go out an vote your own conscience next month. You can at least cancel her vote out!
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I it! When DH & I both vote our way, we come out ahead of her.
I feel like a huge heavy weight has been lifted off my shoulders.
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10-01-2004, 06:37 PM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: beautiful beachy FL
Posts: 2,357
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Re: Why do they make it hard for us to love them?
Just vote! My family is very much one way (on my husband's side, btw!) while I'm another, so I just make sure I go to the polls. Luckily for ALL of us, we live in this wonderful country where we CAN vote, our vote DOES count and we aren't persecuted for dissention (well, not too much anyway!).
God bless America!
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10-01-2004, 08:00 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Jun 2004
Location: Pennsylvania
Posts: 8,784
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Re: Why do they make it hard for us to love them?
I can imagine how you feel. My father and I really enjoy politics (I actually used to teach AP Government and Politics to 12th Graders) and we're both pretty opinionated, however our views are very different and we side with different parties. So, he sends me every email he can find that bashes the politicians that I like. It used to bother me, but now its kind of a joke-- at least I take it that way! I got him back on his birthday by giving him a day calendar of George Bushisms (he loves George Bush!!). Its definitely something we laugh about now. He just tries to get a reaction out of me-- maybe that's what she's doing as well. When I stopped letting it bother me, it actually became a way we joke around. I don't know if that helps. But, don't stress about it!! I just love that we live in a country where we can view our opinions about the government!!
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10-02-2004, 08:35 AM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Atlanta, GA
Posts: 7,569
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Re: Why do they make it hard for us to love them?
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I got him back on his birthday by giving him a day calendar of George Bushisms (he loves George Bush!!).
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Hey I've seen that calendar and I thought it was pretty funny and I love George too. We kind of have that problem in our family as my Grandmother is a yellow dog Democrat. It has something to do with Franklin Roosevelt bringing electricity to middle Georgia. Anyway she's TOTALLY a Zell Miller fan - my Granddad and he worked together a long time ago and good old Zell can still call her name when they happen to meet. Any way after his speech at the Republican convention, we kind of teased her about how well she likes Zell now. She made a sour face and just shook her head, but it was all in fun. I agree that it's terrific that we have choices of who will lead our country and that we get to decide with our votes and not have to accept someone from the point of a gun.
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10-01-2004, 09:55 PM
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Community Rank: Scout
Join Date: Mar 2003
Location: Atlanta
Posts: 4,488
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Re: Why do they make it hard for us to love them?
We have a crazy political thing with my DH's side of the family. Everybody on his side of the family (including DH and I)are Republicans except for his mom and sister. It makes for some lively conversations but it never gets nasty. That's too bad that it has to get out of hand with you MIL. You should be able to say what you think and have rational conversations about it without it getting personal.
Good luck!
Stephanie
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10-02-2004, 08:58 AM
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The Original BagMan
Join Date: Sep 2003
Location: Shalimar, FL
Concierge Level: 6
Posts: 22,002
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Re: Why do they make it hard for us to love them?
Similar situation here, with a different family member.
I just trash the e-mail and send back a cordial reply, usually something like "thanks for your point of view on this"..... That way we don't start another war about not reading their e-mails!
Here's some for you...
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10-02-2004, 09:54 AM
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Community Rank: Scout
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: Southern New Jersey
Concierge Level: 1
Posts: 4,013
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Re: Why do they make it hard for us to love them?
Lois,
DELETE, DELETE, DELETE!!! Without ever reading the e-mails. It will save you so much time and aggravation!!
I have very good friends who are of the opposite political affiliation than we are. WE DON'T TALK POLITICS!!! Even though he bought me a Rush Limbaugh book and I of course gave him the book written by Al Franken "Rush Limbaugh is a big *** I***t" (I guess you've figured out my party affiliation.) But we do this in jest. We realize that neither of us will convince the other and we accept that. I happened to stop at their house one day and my friends MIL and SIL were there having coffee. The discussion was politics, and I was asked what I thought, I openly stated who I'd be voting for and why, and the SIL came back with a slurry of reasons why my decision was wrong. I didn't have to say a word, because my good friend stepped in, simply stated that we are all entitled to our own views and we needed to change the subject!
If your MIL were truly interested in changing your opinion she certainly wouldn't be going about it with negative e-mails. SO DELETE, DELETE, DELETE !! YOU HAVE THE POWER!!!
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10-02-2004, 10:12 AM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: WI
Posts: 17,126
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Re: Why do they make it hard for us to love them?
I agree with everyone else, just delete the emails. My best friend and I are on different views regarding politics and she sends me all these jokes bashing my candidate all the time. I think it's disrespectful, so I said so once. She said she was trying to "open my mind". Umm, I'm the one with the open mind, not her. Anyhoo, now I delete all emails that are of that substance. Not worth the reaction. DH and I are also opposite of his dad, and his dad sends these long emails about how his view is right and this is why. I read them for a laugh as his thinking sometimes is so out there. Just the very thing he complains about with us.
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10-03-2004, 11:35 PM
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Community Rank: Sightseer
Join Date: Aug 2004
Location: South
Posts: 80
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Re: Why do they make it hard for us to love them?
I have found after 17 years of marriage, that it is much easier to turn a deaf ear then to create an atmosphere that is uncomfortable. Take into consideration that her age may play a role in her responses to you. I have found that my mother has gotten very bold with her comments and opinions as she has gotten older. I love her, would miss her if she wasn't here and just tolerate whatever she says and discount it totally. (I do alot of eye rolling when we are on the telephone. Thank God she doesn't have a picture phone! ) Good luck. I know that it isn't easy.
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10-04-2004, 12:01 AM
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Community Rank: Globetrotter
Join Date: Apr 2004
Location: California
Posts: 3,878
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Re: Why do they make it hard for us to love them?
Delete her messages but, before you do, don't let her get the last word. I would tell her to shut up already and quit with the e-mails, unless she is going to be a true patriot and allow others to have an opinion other then hers without being nasty about it. I would remind her that we do not live in a dictatorship and she is not the dictator so, if she can dish it out she better be prepared to take it.
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10-04-2004, 01:33 AM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Nov 2000
Location: Slate Belt, PA
Concierge Level: 7
Posts: 15,346
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Re: Why do they make it hard for us to love them?
Oh, you all are much too nice! I'd let her know after the next email that you'll be switching ISPs and you'll be getting a new email address soon. Be sure to let her know you'll send out the new email address the first time you have something to say to her (like that's going to happen ). Heck, if I had a MIL like that, I'd change phone numbers and tell her we were moving to Montana to raise chickens and live off of the land. But that's just me.
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