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As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.
We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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12-04-2003, 11:53 AM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Michigan's Upper Peninsula
Posts: 27,691
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A car question
I just asked a Northwest agent for the keys to their car so we could move it to jumpstart someone else's car.
Answer: Oh, they're in the ignition. Just move it.
LOL. Life in a small town. Do you ever keep the keys in your car? What about keeping your car running while your run into a store?
I am the worst about leaving the car running - I do it all the time...when I run into the shoppette, when I pick the kids up from daycare, running into the gas staion. You name it, if it's a quick stop and it's cold out, my car is running. And in the summer, I usually leave the keys in the ignition when I run into places like this.
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12-04-2003, 12:10 PM
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RED SOX NATION!!
Join Date: Aug 2002
Location: Connecticut
Concierge Level: 9
Posts: 136,854
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Re: A car question
I never keep the keys in the ignition, and never keep the car running (unless it is in the garage when I'm warming it up for the morning drive).
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12-04-2003, 12:19 PM
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Community Rank: Scout
Join Date: Mar 2000
Location: Seattle, WA
Posts: 4,695
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Re: A car question
The only time we leave the car running is at our house when we're warming it up. We live way off the road on five acres, so no one is going to try to take it. The only time we leave a vehicle running with no one in it someplace other than at home is if one of us has to drive our 1973 Bronco when dropping DD off at daycare. If we don't leave it running its a pain to start up again.
We have had a couple of instances in our state where cars that have been left running have been stolen. Most recently a woman had left her 3 year old in the car while it running to go get her baby in the house and someone stole the car. Fortunately the theif dropped this kid, still in his car seat, in an alley behind the house a little while later. In Seattle you can actually get ticketed for leaving a vehicle running with no one in it, even if its in your driveway.
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12-04-2003, 12:20 PM
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Community Rank: Globetrotter
Join Date: May 2001
Location: Parsippany,NJ
Posts: 3,235
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Re: A car question
NEVER! There are quite a lot of stolen cars in the NY/NJ metro area, so that's a huge no-no.
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12-04-2003, 12:27 PM
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Community Rank: Globetrotter
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: Richardson, TX
Concierge Level: 3
Posts: 3,357
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Re: A car question
In Texas it's a violation of the law to leave the car running with no one in it or to leave the keys in the ignition.
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12-04-2003, 12:40 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Poinciana, Florida
Posts: 9,422
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Re: A car question
Back when I was still "on the job" and walking a beat, I would take the keys out the bring them to the station. When the owners came for them, they got the law read to them.
When I worked insurance claims a while back this happened. One of our clients left her car running while returning a VHS tape. She parked right out front. Next door was a liquor store that was being held up. The robbers, armed with sawed off shotguns, ran out and decided to take the car out front that was running rather than run around the back of the store for their hidden stolen car. They took off south and passed a responding patrol car. The patrol turned around and went after them. The robbers then passed in a no passing zone and hit an oncoming car killing the young mother driving. The robbers were caught. Our client, who left the car running, was sued by the family of the dead mother. The family was awarded more than the policy limits were, so she was, and still is on the hook for the balance of the judgement. The phrase, [ QUOTE ]
"We never thought it could happen around here"
[/ QUOTE ] was heard.
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12-04-2003, 12:48 PM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Sep 2002
Location: Michigan's Upper Peninsula
Posts: 27,691
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Re: A car question
Oh my gosh. I never knew that was against the law in so many places. Y'know who are the biggest violators of this around here? The police themselves. They don't like to get into a cold car, so when they come to visit at the airport, or anywhere, they leave the car running. Sometimes for 1/2 or more!!
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12-05-2003, 01:53 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Poinciana, Florida
Posts: 9,422
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Re: A car question
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... Y'know who are the biggest violators of this around here? The police themselves. They don't like to get into a cold car, so when they come to visit at the airport, or anywhere, they leave the car running. Sometimes for 1/2 or more!!
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Ha! Gotta tell you this one. Just Tuesday (12/2) a woman in her 40's plead guilty to attempting to steal the police chiefs unmarked car from the Mechanicville NY Police Dept's parking area. Seems the chief left the car unlocked with the keys in it. The woman, who had no license due to a DWI conviction, said she just wanted to borrow it to run some errands. Police officers in the station heard the car start, ran out and pulled her from the car before she could drive off.
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12-04-2003, 01:40 PM
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Community Rank: Trailblazer
Join Date: Oct 2003
Location: BURLESON TX (near Ft. Worth)
Posts: 5,589
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Re: A car question
No, from what I understand here in Texas its against
the law. The police had a bunch of commercials trying
to get the point across. This is off subject but we
have alot of problems in the summer (100 degree days)
with people leaving/forgetting kids in the car with
many dying. It is really heartbreaking thinking about.
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12-04-2003, 02:39 PM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Apr 2002
Location: North Central Ohio
Posts: 21,629
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Re: A car question
I live in a small town too, but I never leave the keys in the ignition or leave the car running while I go inside someplace. That's just asking for something to happen.
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12-04-2003, 04:08 PM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 17,365
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Re: A car question
Good Lord! No, to all questions.
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12-04-2003, 05:07 PM
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Community Rank: Trailblazer
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Houston
Posts: 5,162
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Re: A car question
Those PSAs (in Texas) must have worked on me. I would NEVER.
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12-04-2003, 05:07 PM
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PassPorter Message Board Manager PassPorter Guide Author
Community Rank: Legend VIP
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Maidstone, Kent, UK
Concierge Level: 3
Posts: 190,285
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Re: A car question
I never leave the keys in the car or the engine running, not even to run into the house quickly - I'm paranoid someone will steal my lovely car.
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12-05-2003, 02:29 PM
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Community Rank: Trailblazer
Join Date: Sep 2001
Location: Brooklyn, NY
Posts: 5,094
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Re: A car question
<font color="green"> Never, not even for a second. Even when I pull the van out of the driveway then have to get out to close and lock the gate, I take the keys out and lock the doors - especially since Shane is usually in his carseat when I'm doing this.</font>
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12-05-2003, 10:34 PM
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Community Rank: Trailblazer
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Orlando, Fl
Posts: 5,517
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Re: A car question
Only in my driveway to warm it up in the winter. I live in the country so I don't think that's a big deal.
Kelly
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