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As of January 1, 2019, we have closed our forums. This is a decision we did not come to lightly, but it is necessary. The software our forums run on is just too out-of-date and it poses a significant security risk. The server software itself must be updated, and it cannot be without removing the forums.
So it is with a heavy heart that we say goodbye to our long-running forums. They came online in 2000 and brought together so many wonderful Disney fans. We had friendships form, careers launch, couples marry, children born ... all because of this amazing community.
Thank you to each of you who were a part of this community. You made it possible.
And a very special thank you to our Guides (moderators), past and present, who kept our forums a happy place to be. You are the glue that held everything together, and we are forever grateful to you. Thank you aliceinwdw, Caldercup, MrsM, WillCAD, Fortissimo, GingerJ, HiddenMickey, CRCrazy, Eeyoresmom, disneyknut, disneydani, Cam22, chezp, WDWfan, Luvsun, KMB733, rescuesk, OhToodles!, Colexis Mom, lfredsbo, HiddenMickey, DrDolphin, DopeyGirl, duck addict, Disneybine, PixieMichele, Sandra Bostwick, Eeyore Tattoo, DyanKJ130, Suzy Q'Disney, LilMarcieMouse, AllisonG, Belle*, Chrissi, Brant, DawnDenise, Crystalloubear, Disneymom9092, FanOfMickey, Goofy4Goofy, GoofyMom, Home4us123, iamgrumpy, ilovedisney247, Jennifer2003, Jenny Pooh, KrisLuvsDisney, Ladyt, Laughaholic88, LauraBelle Hime, Lilianna, LizardCop, Loobyoxlip, lukeandbrooksmom, marisag, michnash, MickeyMAC, OffKilter_Lynn, PamelaK, Poor_Eeyore, ripkensnana, RobDVC, SHEANA1226, Shell of the South, snoozin, Statelady01, Tara O'Hara, tigger22, Tink and Co., Tinkerbelz, WDWJAMBA, wdwlovers, Wendyismyname, whoSEZ, WildforWD, and WvuGrrrl. You made the magic.
We want to personally thank Sara Varney, who coordinated our community for many years (among so many other things she did for us), and Cheryl Pendry, our Message Board Manager who helped train our Guides, and Ginger Jabour, who helped us with the PassPorter-specific forums and Live! Guides. Thank you for your time, energy, and enthusiasm. You made it all happen.
There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
We go on to discover new frontiers
Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
Moving forward now as one
Moving on with a spirit born to run
Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
But eventually, we must move on and move forward. It is the right thing to do.
So we are retiring this newsletter, as we simply cannot keep up with it. Many thanks to Mouse Fan Travel who supported it all these years, to All Ears and MousePlanet who helped us with news, to our many article contributors, and -- most importantly -- to Sara Varney who edited our newsletter so wonderfully for years and years.
And we are no longer charging for the Live Guides. If you have a subscription, it's yours to keep for the lifetime of the Live Guides at no additional cost. The Live Guides will stay online, barring server issues and technical problems, for all of 2019.
That said, PassPorter is not going away. Most of the resources will remain online for as long as we can support them, and after that we will find ways to make whatever we can available. PassPorter means a great deal to us, and to many of you, and we will do our best to keep it alive in whatever way we can. Our server costs are high, and they'll need to come out of our pockets, so in the future you can expect some changes so we can bring those costs down.
Thank you, thank you, thank you for your amazing support over the years. Without you, there's no way us little guys could have made something like this happen and given the "big guys" a run for their money. PassPorter was consistently the #3 guidebook after the Unofficial and Official guides, which was really unheard of for such a small company to do. We ROCKED it thanks to you and your support and love!
If you miss us, you can still find some of us online. Sara started a new blog at DisneyParkPrincess.com -- I strongly urge you to visit and get on her mailing list. She IS the Disney park princess and knows Disney backward and forward. And I am blogging as well at JenniferMaker.com, which is a little craft blog I started a couple of years ago to make ends meet. You can see and hear me in my craft show at https://www.youtube.com/c/jennifermaker . Many PassPorter readers and fans are on Facebook, in groups they formed like the PassPorter Trip Reports and PassPorter Crafting Challenge (if you join, just let them know you read about it in the newsletter). And some of our most devoted community members started a forum of their own at Pixie Dust Lane and all are invited over.
So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
Best wishes for a wonderful and magical new year!
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07-24-2003, 04:49 PM
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Community Rank: Jetsetter
Join Date: May 2002
Location: georgia
Posts: 2,818
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busch gardens/ sea world questions
a friend of ours has a condo in indian shores, fl that we can use for free pretty much whenever we want to. we're thinking of taking a week in sep, oct, or nov. it looks like busch gardens is only an hour away, and we've never been, so we're going to check it out. we haven't been to sea world in 8 years, so we're thinking about getting a combo ticket and doing them on different days. questions:
will either of these parks require more than one full day to explore? i really would like to see and do as much as possble, so i'm considering getting a combo season pass if we need more than a day at either one.
when would you go during the sep-nov time frame based on crowds, weather, etc?
what are some don't-miss attractions at each park?
any other advice would be welcome!
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07-24-2003, 05:45 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: Feb 2000
Location: Poinciana, Florida
Posts: 9,422
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Re: busch gardens/ sea world questions
We have done both (although Bush Gardens was in 1987) and consider them one day parks.
We have never been in the season you are asking about though.
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07-24-2003, 11:47 PM
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Community Rank: Explorer
Join Date: May 2002
Location: Fort Smith, Arkansas
Posts: 10,721
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Re: busch gardens/ sea world questions
I've only been to BG once and it was fine but much preferred Sea World- went there every year from 1982-1997- been there more than I have been to Disney. Worked there too for a year so it's a favorite place o' mine!
Some Not To Be Missed Stuff:
Feeding the Dolphins in the Key West Section: you have to catch the feeding times and buy fish ( We usually drop about $30-it's THAT fun!)
Shamu Show ( Of course!)
Feeding the Sting Rays - near the dolphin feeding area- it's funky but fun!
They have some back stage tours- I forget the names but one takes you to their Manatee Rehab Areas- we loved that one, as well as the attraction Manatees: The Last Generation.
Hope this was of some help! Have a great time!
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07-25-2003, 01:59 AM
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PassPorter Message Board Manager PassPorter Guide Author
Community Rank: Legend VIP
Join Date: Jun 2002
Location: Maidstone, Kent, UK
Concierge Level: 3
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Re: busch gardens/ sea world questions
We've been to both on quite a few occasions and consider them to be one day parks as well.
Must-do's:
BG - Rhino Rally, River Rapids (not as good as AK though IMHO), log flume, Edge of Africa to see the animals and the white tigers. As we're not coaster fans, I can't help you on those, but there are plenty of them. There is another water ride that soaks everyone on a bridge as you come down the final stretch, but I can't remember what it's called. DH always does that one and loves it. [img]images/icons/wink.gif[/img]
Sea World - Dolphin show, Dolphin feeding, Wild Arctic, Terrors of the Deep, Penguins, Journey to Atlantis, Shamu show (although we preferred the Dolphin show).
We've only been in November during the months you're talking about and we just picked days that had reasonably nice weather, as both parks have water rides and you're out a lot to see the animals in their natural environment.
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07-25-2003, 08:31 AM
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Community Rank: Legend
Join Date: Mar 2001
Posts: 17,365
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Re: busch gardens/ sea world questions
Lisa, I would consider them day parks too - especially if visiting in the "off season".
Both are outstanding parks, well run and managed by Busch. They're clean and they've got outstanding attractions.
Don't miss attractions at Busch:
Montu - a huge inverted steel coaster buried in an excavation dig setting.
Kumba - another huge multi looping steel coaster but you sit down above the tracks on this one.
Gwazi - two coasters wooden coasters in one. Actually, a dueling coaster with two distinct separate tracks.
There are also several animal attractions throughout the park - very much like a zoon and a theme park combo.
At Sea World don't miss:
Shamu Adventure - a classic show with the infamous killer whale and friends. Be warned - you'll get SOAKED in the Soak Seating section.
Feeding the Dolphins/Stingrays - you can get up front and personal with them and probably was the highlight of the day for us!
Shark Encounted - you'll travel through an acrylic tunnel while sharks swim above and around you. WAY COOL!
Kraken - Florida's BEST roller coaster (IMHO). You sit above the tracks on barstool like vehichles and before you depart from the station the floor falls away. Get ready to drop and flip upside down 7 times!
Hope you have a blast!
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