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Old 04-30-2014, 11:17 AM   #1
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Which state?

Not sure if this is the correct place to post, but which state has the worse driver's?

I live in New Hampshire but I think all northern New England drivers are pretty good.

Personally, the worse drivers I have ever encountered were in Seattle. too many Starbucks stops?
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Old 04-30-2014, 11:35 AM   #2
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I think it's Massachusetts. They don't signal, they speed through yellow lights, they cut you off, they have no manners, and if you ever had the pleasure of driving through Chelmsford on the Drum Hill rotary, you'd know what I mean. I've driven in several states and although some highways are more crowded, the drivers are the worst in Massachusetts; even worse than NY and CA.
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Old 04-30-2014, 12:04 PM   #3
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JOanne,

Masssachusetts made me think of the question. I actually drive through Drum Hill somewhat regularly. I think the craziness is a little more under control with the new lights, but I can't figure out which lane to be in. Maybe it's a Massachusetts engineering problem.

I go back to RI regularly and find the drivers as bad, if not worse than Mass. Do they ever stop at stop signs?

Part of me thinks I've been spoiled up here. People are nice, take turns, don't try to kill with their cars.
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Speaking as a pedestrian, the Boston drivers can be scary! Stop signs mean slow down and look for oncoming traffic from the right only. You're on your own if you're a pedestrian. The drivers don't even look for pedestrians crossing. It doesn't help that they discontinued the "red and yellow" lights for pedestrians. Anyone remember those? They meant traffic was stopped in all directions so you didn't have to worry about turning vehicles. The worst drivers I've ever encountered, though, were in Athens. Going backwards down a one-way street at full speed seemed to be perfectly acceptable. As long as your car was pointed in the right direction, it could move wherever....
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And here we are going to take on those Boston drivers in two months! Yes I've found them crazy just walking around. Toronto has far more people but they don't drive psycho. Montreal drivers may actually be worse than Boston. I haven't minded the outskirts of Boston, but I won't do Montreal anymore.
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The scariest roads I've ever tried to cross as a pedestrian were in Rome.
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I was going to say that American drivers are a lot better than some of the European ones - notably in Italy and Paris...
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I find it interesting that pedestrians feel unsafe. When my DD was at Brown, it drove me crazy to drive around when no one ever looked before they entered the street. I was always fearful I would hit some one.
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I find it interesting that pedestrians feel unsafe. When my DD was at Brown, it drove me crazy to drive around when no one ever looked before they entered the street. I was always fearful I would hit some one.
I agree, that's a whole other problem. Frightening for drivers. I wait on the curb and just shake my head at the jay-walkers. It's become worse, I'm sure everywhere, with people texting non-stop.
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Boston drivers are seriously like an action scene in a movie.
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According to recent data and info from Insurance Companies, tickets, etc... the top 5 worst states for are:

1. Louisiana
2. South Carolina
3. Mississippi
4. Texas
5. Alabama

Odd because I expected one or two New England states to be in the top 5.
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According to recent data and info from Insurance Companies, tickets, etc... the top 5 worst states for are:

1. Louisiana
2. South Carolina
3. Mississippi
4. Texas
5. Alabama

Odd because I expected one or two New England states to be in the top 5.
Being from New England, I would have bet that MA would have been on there .

But in fairness, it really is Boston drivers (and the greater Boston area) we mostly think of when we talk about MA drivers.

And considering the sheer size of TX compared to all of New England, well I suppose that is a factor in that data.
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According to recent data and info from Insurance Companies, tickets, etc... the top 5 worst states for are:

1. Louisiana
2. South Carolina
3. Mississippi
4. Texas
5. Alabama

Odd because I expected one or two New England states to be in the top 5.
With the exception of Louisiana (because I haven't done much driving there and don't know), I can accept this. I am actually pretty proud that GA managed to be the one deep South state that isn't here! LOL TX is still the worst to me, but Alabama would definitely be on my list. I have never seen more people run red lights than I did when I lived in northern AL.
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According to recent data and info from Insurance Companies, tickets, etc... the top 5 worst states for are:

1. Louisiana
2. South Carolina
3. Mississippi
4. Texas
5. Alabama

Odd because I expected one or two New England states to be in the top 5.
I have lived in Louisiana and South Carolina and driven a great deal in Alabama and Mississippi. When we moved from NY to SC our car insurance went up so much that we asked around about why. What we were told is that apparently it is because SOME drivers surrender the right of way by waving you on and then slam into you and claim 'pain and suffering.' This has made me completely reluctant to take the right of way when I am waved on and do not have the right of way. ONE time in SC in the middle of nowhere (as in there wouldn't have been any witnesses) Someone in a HUGE SUV-as in about 5 times the value of my little car-was trying to wave me to turn left in front of her at an intersection. I refused and no matter how much I shook my head, and waved my hand she kept waving me on even to the point of flashing her lights and beeping her horn at me. I very patiently put the car in park and sat there and looked at the clock, after about three minutes she opened her windows and started cursing at me through her mouth with some missing teeth. Finally she went away, but I am thinking, if someone wants to 'be nice' and 'let me go' why would they get upset if I didn't?Other places I have encountered this behavior I have sometimes had to just turn right or go straight to avoid this, but where I was, there was no right turn and if I had gone straight there wouldn't have been a safe place to turn around and I would have been an hour late picking up my daughter-told you-the middle of nowhere. But never, anywhere else have I had someone get upset with me for not taking the right-of-way when I didn't have it.
But I think the reason this is for the insurance is because in the tourist areas where you have people coming from the NorthEast where sometimes you will really never be able to turn left if someone doesn't give you the right of way, people are NOT reluctant to take it, even if there aren't any other cars around for miles. I did get frustrated near Myrtle Beach because people would often 'block the box' and there would be a great deal of gridlock. If you sit back, so as not to block the box, people go around you and block the box anyway, but they do NOT throw temper tantrums with their car horns.
I just think this is unacceptable to throw a temper tantrum with one's horn, and I don't think this behavior would be tolerated in (the south) any of the listed places. When I lived in Westchester, NY, I refused to drive south of the Tappan-Zee Bridge, just too nerve racking. In NYC there is a lot of horn honking. But where I grew up in Kentucky, people only honked their horn if there was an emergency of which they thought you weren't aware-'you are about to back in to me' or 'you are about to go and you don't see that car coming' or 'I am coming through this intersection too fast to stop-step on it' So one time in Westchester, I was sitting at a place that wasn't terribly crowded waiting to turn left. Every time it was clear and I was about to go, I would take my foot off the accelerator and start to go and the guy behind me would slam on the horn, so I would stop, afraid of a danger. Was my car really in reverse and I didn't know it? Was there a closer car coming that I didn't see? Was there a car coming from another direction? What was the danger? I would get this terrible adrenaline rush and have to take a while to calm down. I swear this must have happened around twelve times and I was just so physically upset I couldn't take it anymore. Around the tenth time it happened, when he would honk the horn, I would just put the car in Park. He was in his car throwing a temper tantrum with his horn and I was in my car. Then a pick-up truck pulled up behind him. Now to see a pick-up truck is very rare in this part of Westchester, Sleepy Hollow. After the second time the guy in the car slammed his horn and I put the car in park, I see from my rear view window that the BIG HUGE guy from the pick-up truck gets out and he is wearing work boots, and he marches up to me screaming at me about why won't I go when it is clear? So when I see him get out of the car, I get out of the car and go around the back and look at my back bumper. I explained to him that every time I tried to turn this guy would honk his horn at me so there MUST be some emergency -perhaps he hit me and he wants to be a good citizen and take responsibility. Then I explained how it is just a natural reaction for me to stop if I hear a car horn. So he stood there and made sure the guy didn't honk his horn at me when it was clear, and in a short period of time I went on and all was well.
But If-just as an example -in the general population only about 10% of the people are a type-A personality, then in Westchester 90% of them are, and those who aren't are married to a person who is, who is driving the car. So driving becomes this colossal competition. Apparently I complained about that so much while driving in Westchseter that I stressed out my daughter so much that she is unable to pass the driver's test. Oooops sorry baby. We have also lived in FL, PR and NJ and now we live in IN. Let me just say, I am glad I have never had to drive in MA.
I am going to a conference in Pittsburgh, and although I LOVE driving elsewhere in PA, I am reluctant to try to drive in Pitsburgh-which no one has mentioned.....because it isn't a state Does anyone have any views, suggestions about this?
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If we're talking just in the US, it has to be Texas. Texas, Texas, Texas. I've driven all over this country and I have never ever seen the kind of horrible driving I witnessed like when I was in TX.

If we're talking globally, I would say Paris but my husband swears it's Caracas (I've never been there and he's never been to Paris. )
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