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Old 04-23-2014, 06:33 PM   #1
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Question Financing DVC

I was wondering if anyone here has used Monera Financial, knows of someone who has, or has any information about them...positive or negative. DH and I are looking at a resale at the Timeshare Store, but in order to go forward would ultimately need to finance about $5-6K of the purchase at least in the short term (we would be planning to pay off early using tax refunds/work bonus). Does anyone know if they have a penalty for prepayment?

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Is there any chance you could get a home equity loan for the money you need? That's what we did when we bought a timeshare. It's very easy to pay those off early, making extra payments whenever you want.
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When we moved to Lake County IL (Chicago Suburbs) about 10 yrs ago we looked at buying a home and had sticker shock coming from MI. For a basic 3BD, 2BA home the prices were $250-$350K, but the kicker was the property taxes in this county were so high that those alone added almost $1K/mo. Long story short, we did not buy, we decided to rent...it was more economical at $1200/mo. Glad we did since the housing bubble burst here have put so many underwater. Now the deals are a bit better although the taxes are still too high in my book but we have never really liked it here. Our dream is moving to the Tampa/Clearwater area, but we have DD15 in her 9th grade year and our other DD10 is in her 4th grade year. The soonest we see a move happening would be after DD15 graduates in 3yrs, that way the move would be before DD10 begins HS, or we may wait 8yrs until they both have graduated. This is also why buying DVC makes sense to us in preparation for our future. We likely would only go every 2.5-3yrs while still living up here in IL, but it becomes more attractive down the road. Sorry for the long answer...basically, no home equity available.
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OK, so you can't go that route.
I'm not familiar with the mortgage company you talk about so I can't be any help. Is it the company that was suggested by Timeshare Store? Did you ask if they have other companies they work with frequently? Maybe just a call to the company is in order to ask the questions about advance payments and fees and such.

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Thank you, yes it was one that was recommended by the Timeshare Store. I actually did speak to them this morning and got the details, it sounds pretty seamless to me. I'll just have to give DH the details after he is home from work and go from there. I just thought it may be good to hear what others may have thought that had previously gone through the process.
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I've read many threads on financing. But so far I've never seen anyone mention a 401k loan... Which is the way I went about it... The interest rate isn't high, and it doesn't really matter because the interest and principal go directly back to me since I'm the lender and borrower... The only loss was the fees to set up the loan.
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I've read many threads on financing. But so far I've never seen anyone mention a 401k loan... Which is the way I went about it... The interest rate isn't high, and it doesn't really matter because the interest and principal go directly back to me since I'm the lender and borrower... The only loss was the fees to set up the loan.
I feel compelled to comment here... Yes, the 401K loans are easy and you do get the interest payments (and principal) back into your own account. Just remember -- those interest payments are coming out of your net after-tax income in your paycheck. This means, you have already satisfied your obligations to Uncle Sam and that money should be all yours to spend as you like. However -- when those payments go into your 401K account, the interest portion is recast as pre-tax... So when you ultimately take distributions from your 401K plan at retirement, you will pay tax on that money again. This is why no financial advisor would ever recommend taking a loan from your 401K -- you would be much better off to never make the contribution in the first place, than to contribute and take a loan.

I understand that sometimes you just have no choice... Several years ago, I took out a 401K loan. That was before I realized the implications. But when you think about the double taxation that you are setting yourself up for, you will realize that are better financing options.
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I feel compelled to comment here... Yes, the 401K loans are easy and you do get the interest payments (and principal) back into your own account. Just remember -- those interest payments are coming out of your net after-tax income in your paycheck. This means, you have already satisfied your obligations to Uncle Sam and that money should be all yours to spend as you like. However -- when those payments go into your 401K account, the interest portion is recast as pre-tax... So when you ultimately take distributions from your 401K plan at retirement, you will pay tax on that money again. This is why no financial advisor would ever recommend taking a loan from your 401K -- you would be much better off to never make the contribution in the first place, than to contribute and take a loan.

I understand that sometimes you just have no choice... Several years ago, I took out a 401K loan. That was before I realized the implications. But when you think about the double taxation that you are setting yourself up for, you will realize that are better financing options.
The other thing to consider is that at least with my company's 401K loans......should you leave the company (voluntarily or involuntarily), the ENTIRE balance is due immediately. That stopped me cold. Just what I'd need if I get laid off - a hefty balance coming due right away. And I don't think other lenders would be lining up to help me roll it into another loan....seeing as I'd be unemployed at the time.
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The other thing to consider is that at least with my company's 401K loans......should you leave the company (voluntarily or involuntarily), the ENTIRE balance is due immediately. That stopped me cold. Just what I'd need if I get laid off - a hefty balance coming due right away. And I don't think other lenders would be lining up to help me roll it into another loan....seeing as I'd be unemployed at the time.
Another great point. And if you do not repay it all immediately (maybe you get 90 days...?), you pay a flat 10% tax on the outstanding balance, plus the entire amount is included in your income and is taxable.
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Another great point. And if you do not repay it all immediately (maybe you get 90 days...?), you pay a flat 10% tax on the outstanding balance, plus the entire amount is included in your income and is taxable.
Absolutely true... But it is an option. I am unable to have a home equity loan at this point, but the loan I took from the 401k is for only a few years, and it is a risk if I lose my job, however the company I work for is very solid and for the last forty years have only let a few people go due to gross incompetence. For me, the 401k loan was a good fit.
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I actually do not have a 401K through work, I have a state pension through IMRF and I do not believe I can take a loan against that. But for the same reasons Brad mentioned, I would not want to touch that or our other investments. Besides, I think having the higher interest rate is just extra motivation to pay it off early and get rid of it.
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