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There are other changes as well.
Why? Well, the world has changed. And change with it, we must. The lyrics to "We Go On" for IllumiNations say it best:
We go on to the joy and through the tears
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Moving on with the current of the years.
We go on
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Ever on with each rising sun.
To a new day, we go on.
It's time to move on and move forward.
PassPorter is a small business, and for many years it supported our family. But the world changed, print books took a backseat to the Internet, and for a long time now it has been unable to make ends meet. We've had to find new ways to support our family, which means new careers and less and less time available to devote to our first baby, PassPorter.
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So we encourage you to stay in touch with us and your fellow community members wherever works best for you!
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My kids enjoy train rides, but we didn't do the train on our last trip. How long does it take round trip? Do the lines get long? Do you get any nice views and or scenery while on the train?
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We have never experience much of a line at the train that I can remember. I think it takes 5-10 minutes for a round trip but I think there are four stops if I remember correctly. We usually take a ride on the train for a little rest break.
In recent years, I've never seen a line at any of the stops (there are 3 of them - Main Street, Frontierland, and Toontown/Fantasyland) and I think with stops, I'd say the whole loop is maybe 15 minutes or so. As for nice views, being the perimeter of the park, one side will be all trees and things so you can't see outside the park (except near Tomorrowland) and the other side will be things inside the park.
There are stops at Main Street Station, Frontierland Station (next to Splash Mountain), and the new Fantasyland Storybook Circus Station.
I think the round trip is something more like 20-25 minutes depending on the length of the stops.
It's a good way to get to the front of the Magic Kingdom when there's a parade going on, by the way, or to get to Frontierland, too.
The scenery varies; some is quite interesting and some is pretty bland. But there are views you cannot easily get otherwise. I actually think that this is an area that Disney could "plus up", though I have similar feelings about the PeopleMover, too.
I think your family would enjoy the train ride. It is relaxing and I think a nice way to rest your feet. Have your kids sit closer to the inside since that's where most of the things to view are located (on the right of the train looking forward). I, too, have not experienced a line, but if you've just missed a train, it will be a bit of a wait for the next one to come along. Even if there are a lot of people waiting, the train has a huge capacity, so not to worry.
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We love to take it as a mid afternoon break. It is shady and breezy making it a nice relaxing way to travel and relax. I would guess more like 20-25 min. as well for a complete loop.
Have your kids sit closer to the inside since that's where most of the things to view are located (on the right of the train looking forward).
The right side of the train remains open and it is announced that kids have to be on the outside/left hand side of the train. If your kids are older (teenagers) it most likely won't come into affect but if they're younger, Disney will make a parent sit on the right hand side of the train.
I love the train and I think it is worthwhile doing with a certain mindset. It is the antithesis of a thrill ride. I find it, calm, relaxing, quiet and -as other have said, a great break and a chance to recharge. I know my family would gain a great deal more energy because of the slow, easy going nature of the train....but alas...I don't think we have ever done the full trip just for fun. Again it is the best way to get around during the parades.....if it is still running. Sometimes does it not stop running before the night time parade?
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We use the RR for transportation, so we don't have to walk all the way across the park when tired. I would agree that a full circuit is closer to 20-25 minutes. Lots of parents find it soothing and restful with tired kids (Tomorrowland Transit Authority - People Mover is also excellent for this). Everybody should ride it around at least one time; we have often taken it as our first or last ride of the day.
Thanks for all the great tips!! My kids will be 9 (almost 10), 7, and 5 when we go in November. I will have to make a point of riding it this time. Anytime we go to any local zoos or parks, the train is always a must-do for them, so I'm not sure why we didn't make a point of doing it last time.
Does it operate after the night time parade and before the fireworks? That would be a great way to bypass main st. But I'm guessing it probably does not or everyone would be doing it.
We never had waits at any of the stops either, believe it or not it is one my 16yrolds favorite things to do, it is an easy way to get around the park as well, easier on the feet, and its relaxing, definetly worth it!
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It does not operate during the fireworks. I'm not sure how far in advance and how long after it stays still. Some of the fireworks launch areas are near certain areas of the track, I believe, so it is a safety issue.
They do shut down the trains for the fireworks, but not for parades (it's a great way to bypass Main St. at parade time). The last train before the fireworks leaves Main St. Station about a half-hour before the show. It's pretty similar for the other stations - figure to get to whatever station you're headed for at least a half-hour before the fireworks.
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