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Old 05-29-2012, 07:11 PM   #1
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Question Do I really have a choice?

Whether it's school, sports or some other related activity, you will most likely be asked to sign a photo or video waiver. Otherwise, you child will end up on the sidelines as a result. Since what's to keep some other parent with a phone, camera or video from posting something with your child in the background or even foreground?

So am I just living in the last century here? Do you post pictures and videos of your kids on sites like Facebook and Flicker? What precautions do you take on these and other sites? After all, as a teen they can just start their own accounts. So should I just sign and hope for the best?
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:03 PM   #2
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It's one I struggle with, too.
I usually sign the release, because I generally trust the sponsoring organization. Our school and Girl Scouts, for example, are pretty good about not using last names if a photo is used.
Truth be told, I'm more worried about a picture where my daughter is identified, than I am about her appearing in an anonymous photo. So the appearing in the background isn't my biggest concern. And I'm going to get classmates in the shot if I photograph my daughter at her 2d grade concert, so I'm pretty sure other folks will get my kid in their shots too.
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Old 05-29-2012, 08:09 PM   #3
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I,for one,am against Facebook. There are many reasons,but I won't bore you all with those. Many people do post videos,and pictures they have no business posting,no matter if it's their family,kids,or even themselves. When FB dies,there will be other sites like it,and other opportunities.
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Well, my son is all over the internet, as we have a blog. But, we're not on FB.

A part of my job is to make sure parents who have asked that their child not get photographed get exactly as they have requested, as I work in a school. When media come with either film or still cameras, they have me check their shots to make sure they haven't captured any child who isn't supposed to be photographed, so it can be done. As for other parents not getting your kid--good luck with that. I don't know what you can do to control that one.
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There are so many kids pictures on facebook I suppose it is a bit paranoid to worry about these pictures, and yes chances are good your child will be all over the internet (anonymously) anyway being in the background or being part of a group performing that some parent will think is youtube worthy. I think it is annoying, but just part of our society at this point and I agree with the other poster that mentioned if a child is not tagged it doesn't seem like that big of a deal. I personally just don't like other people posting pictures of my kids if they are identified. I guess I am a control freak, but I would like to be made aware of pictures anyone can see of my children before they are put online. I would also like to be able to control what pictures of me are online as well, but that doesn't seem to happen either....
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I don't have a facebook account, so I'm not posting photos of my kids on the internet. But, yes, I sign the waiver. I do not live in a very ethically diverse state and our small town isn't ethnically diverse at all. In order to put forth a different impression of this part of the country, my kids get photographed a lot, and we've just accepted that. For whatever reason, people seem to think that it's a better impression if their photos have children of various ethneticities. My son was featured in a candidate's run for governor, my daughter was photographed for an Enron promotion when they tested some sort of promotion here. Both children were photographed with Presidential candidates when they came campaigning, they have both been featured on the town's website. I don't think it's a big deal. Their names were never mentioned, so I don't see the problem.
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As someone who's worked in PR, promoting the good work my old workplace used to do involving kids, I have a different perspective. I'll say now I don't have kids, so I can't help from that side of things. However, I have seen in my time kids really disappointed when they're not allowed to be in photos while everyone else is and, as I say, it's always good stuff I was doing - maybe sports sessions with kids, that sort of thing. Sometimes there were really good reasons for a kid not to be in a photo - some kids were in the system and couldn't be identified for that reason, which is perfectly understandable, but I just wanted to put the other side... hope it's helpful.
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As someone who's worked in PR, promoting the good work my old workplace used to do involving kids, I have a different perspective. I'll say now I don't have kids, so I can't help from that side of things. However, I have seen in my time kids really disappointed when they're not allowed to be in photos while everyone else is and, as I say, it's always good stuff I was doing - maybe sports sessions with kids, that sort of thing. Sometimes there were really good reasons for a kid not to be in a photo - some kids were in the system and couldn't be identified for that reason, which is perfectly understandable, but I just wanted to put the other side... hope it's helpful.
That being said, if they're in the background and not the subject - legally the photographer does not need anyone's permission to post it. Only if you're easily identifiable, and even then it's a very grey area.
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Thanks everyone for your insight. I realize it's inevitable with technology being what it is but some things like FB tagging and EXIF data on photos, etc. probably worries me the most. (I know you can turn off these functions but not everyone takes the same precautions to do so.) It's still nice to know I'm not the only one with concerns and I can appreciate other perspectives.
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My kids are adults and I still turn off all the EXIF Location functions! It also makes me crazy when my sisters "tag" me for being at "places" with them, even though the only place they do so is Disney!! Personally I do not like everyone knowing where I am on a global map! As for kids being in pictures, I remember my picture being in the newspaper when I was a kid after I won a poetry writing contest. My mom had to sign a waiver so they could print it. I was so proud of having my picture in print! One of the mother's would not sign and that kid was not allowed in the picture and to this day I can still see him standing off to the side while the rest of us had our picture taken. His face was so sad and forlorn! I know in this day and age is it much more dangerous. All you can do is try and spread the word to everyone you know to please not tag you and your family without your consent and you block all GPS location type data implants from their phones when taking pictures.
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Honestly, I don't see anything wrong with it. I have friends and family all over the place, so facebook is where we all catch up. My account is private, and I know that nothing is truly private online, but I know that no one is on Facebook looking specifically for me to get to my kids.
As for pictures in the paper and such, I always sign the waiver. I honestly don't think someone is going to search out my kids just because they see their pictures in the paper.
I think people worry for nothing about their kids pictures being posted online or in the paper. I'm honestly much more worried that some sicko might live near me (I just checked, there is a level 3 sex offender that lives 3 streets away) and see my kids while they are in the yard playing.
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I think people worry for nothing about their kids pictures being posted online or in the paper. I'm honestly much more worried that some sicko might live near me (I just checked, there is a level 3 sex offender that lives 3 streets away) and see my kids while they are in the yard playing.
I wouldn't say for nothing, but I think the level of fear is extremely high, like you said - it's the danger in your neighborhood that gets overlooked and is much more dangerous.
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Poor wording on my behalf, but I feel my kids are safer in pictures online then they are outside my own house.
Back in late 1997, there was a missing 10 year old from the Boston area. The investigation ended up reaching into New Hampshire and Maine. When all was said and done, the culprit (one of) was a neighbor who actually handed out missing flyers with the boys family.
I guess I just don't think it's a big deal. My daughter plays hockey and her team is online, and at tournaments, her picture is in the booklets that are handed out.
I understand everyone's comfort level is different. If you aren't comfortable, don't sign any waiver.
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I sign the waivers, but I usually put in something to the effect that the parents must be notified and give individual permission BEFORE release of any photo featuring my children. I have given permission for a couple, but not many.
I don't post photos of my kids myself. I've started to loosen up a little about it, but that's more because they are older (14, 19, and the other 3 are in their late 20s and mid-30s) and not because I trust the web more!!
I do not identify on FB where we live - I use the nearest city. I think my profile here even says Indianapolis, and not the town we actually live in. I have disabled the GPS identifier thing for my phone and camera - no-one needs to know where I am or where I've taken photos at!
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