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We've had early seating both times. We prefer it, as we eat early at home, so it keeps us on schedule (I guess that would be the "pro"). Plus I don't like to eat late and go to bed stuffed to the gills. The "cons" are sometimes the kids didn't want to go to the show after dinner, or were too tired (more our first trip than the second). If you have a late excursion, you could be rushing around to get to dinner on time (happened to us once in Cozumel).
We had the second seating dinner on our last cruise and we liked it. It gives you the luxury of not having to hurry for dinner. We were concerned about eating dinner early and then not feeling like going to the shows, so by choosing second seating, that gave us the opportunity to not be rushed or being too stuffed to go to a show It also depends on your kids. You know what your kids will be able to handle. Have fun!!
I know that on RCC most of the families did the early seating and at the late seatings there were more "just adult" tables. Is it like that on a Disney cruise??
Yes, that's the tendency, but probably not to as great a degree on DCL. Early seating is almost always wait-listed due to the families with kids that request it. Simply because of the number of families on DCL, fewer get early seating than would like it, meaning more families with kids even on the late seating. There is, however, also a tendency on DCL to group adults without kids on one dining rotation, families with older kids on a different rotation, and families with small kids on the third rotation. During the school year, this is easier to detect than during school vacation periods, when the number of families is especially high.
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We eat early at home and aren't doing any excursions so that isn't an issue for us. We are really taking it easy for our first cruise and being VERY laid back. Basically just taking it all in and sitting back so as to relax after our 6 days in the parks. If the kids don't want to go to the shows we won't make them. I have a feeling they will want to stay in the kids clubs...hey, more alone time with my DH. As a family we are usually early risers and then tend to chill out in the evenings anyway.
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We eat early at home and aren't doing any excursions so that isn't an issue for us. We are really taking it easy for our first cruise and being VERY laid back. Basically just taking it all in and sitting back so as to relax after our 6 days in the parks. If the kids don't want to go to the shows we won't make them. I have a feeling they will want to stay in the kids clubs...hey, more alone time with my DH. As a family we are usually early risers and then tend to chill out in the evenings anyway.
That describes us, too, so we opt for early seating. If we're getting up for 8:00 or 9:00 excursions, then the kids need to be in bed around 10 (at the latest) if we don't want Grumpy Grumps on our hands. I can't imagine finishing a meal at 9:30 and then putting the kids to bed right away.
Take this with a grain of salt, however. Because of my daughter's swim practice schedule, we eat dinner before 5:00 at home! (Though we did choose early seating even before this crazy dinner schedule happened to our family....)
We like the later seating so we're not rushed to get to dinner, especially the first night on board. We usually get a little something on deck 9 or through room service to tide us over and by doing that skip an appetizer. Our DDs were the same age as you kiddos on our first cruise and the late seating didn't bother then at all. Another plus is that around 5:00, the pools are fairly empty if they want to swim. On our second cruise they were the only ones in the pool We're also not big on desserts so we usually skip that as well which helps us to not be too full at bed time.
We have done both. I have to say we will never to late dinig again, while the kids are young. We only went to the dining room 2 times with the kids. Both times the 2 year old fell asleep, one DD got sick and another night my D& fell asleep at the table as well. They did not enjoy their meals. However I had high hopes I would like this dining time, and not having the rushed feeling. However your kids are older and most likely be able to have a late seating without problems
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We chose late dining because if you are hungry there is always something to eat earlier, including the cheese and crackers through room service. Whenever we go out (including with our son) we eat last. I'd rather have fun first. Then after dinner there's time to take a walk or dance or whatever. If we ate early I'd want to go to bed early, and that's not "vacation" to me. However, my son is almost 9. That makes a difference.
One thing to keep in mind is what time zone you are coming from.
We are early eaters so my hubby and I chose the the early seating for our anniversary cruise last year. It never occured to us the time difference between California and Florida. At 5:30 Florida time (2:30 CA time) we weren't really hungry yet. I think late seating 8:30 FL time (5:30 CA time) would have been better.
I'm thinking we will stick to the early dinner time for now. The only time we might feel rushed is our first night. However if I can schedule us all to be showered (we will go swimming after lunch), dressed and ready to go after the sail away party we should be fine.
Since we aren't doing any excursions we won't feel rushed to get back on the ship. Our Nassau day will be relaxing since we are only getting off the ship to get our passports sighed and then getting right back on. On our Castaway Cay day we are getting off the ship as soon as we can and will board late afternoon. I know being on the beach for several hours will be plenty enough for us.
One thing to keep in mind is what time zone you are coming from.
We are early eaters so my hubby and I chose the the early seating for our anniversary cruise last year. It never occured to us the time difference between California and Florida. At 5:30 Florida time (2:30 CA time) we weren't really hungry yet. I think late seating 8:30 FL time (5:30 CA time) would have been better.
I've considered this before - keeping the family on PST, so we could stay up until midnight or so and still be to bed at our body's "normal" time. But, that would mean we'd also be sleeping in until 8 or 9, and if I wake up that late I feel like I've missed a good part of the day and/or all the good times for excursions or beach spots...
To combat that, we get up super early on our travel day (4:00 here is 7:00 there), so that when we get to FL late in the afternoon, our bodies have already begun the time shift (read: we're already dead tired). And after a day of travel and either sandwiches from home or airport/airline food, we're ready for a meal when we land!
We loved the late seating. We would have a swim in the near empty pool and then shower and relax during the early meal. The only disadvantage was that we got along so well with our table mates that one night we didn't leave the table until after 10:30 and the night of the Pirates in the Caribbean Party we almost missed the fireworks because we were still chatting in the dining room. Also we were not hungry for the buffet on deck as we had just finished eating.
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