December 2010? Just asking!
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**cindybelle** · 01-26-2010, 12:29 PM

I just want to get the ball rolling. Are all you event planners still exhausted from the December 2009 meet?

I bought an Annual Pass this year and intend to utilize it to the fullness of my pocketbook and my vacation time allotment! So if dates that Cheryl posted back in a 2006 article are still correct, might we be looking at:

Cruise on Disney Wonder December 5-9

Mega Mouse Meet December 9-13

I'm just askin'. I'd love to participate for at least part of the time PassPorters will be gathering!

Minnie Lor · 01-26-2010, 11:58 PM

No idea

MouseFan Travel (PP sponsor) along with WDW Today podcast and most probably AllEars are planning for (Land) Dec. 1-5th. No mention of cruise. Mike Scopa is with WDW Today and of course, Deb Wills is AllEars. Both of those people are on the MF committee. I don't know if PP would follow the crowd or choose their own dates.

**chezp** · 01-27-2010, 01:34 AM

I have no idea what's happening now that MouseFest no longer exists. Someone told me this year's date and, to me, they seem very early. There's no way we'll be back at WDW in December until 2012 and if the meet's that early in the month, we won't make that one.

ilovedisney247 · 01-29-2010, 05:44 AM

I don't really know what is in the works--MFT and WDW Today seem to be moving away from the traditional dates--maybe becuase that weekend seems to get busier every year. A week earlier may avoid some of the crowds! I don't think I'll be making it to any of those events--but u never know!

**Dave Marx** · 01-29-2010, 10:34 PM

The first question I'll ask is, do we want to wait to see what the MouseFest Committee has to say (so far, there's nothing new at MouseFest.org)?

Since MFT does have a close relationship with a number of the organizations/individuals on the MouseFest committee, I'd assume Dec. 1-5 would be the MouseFest Land dates, if there is to be a MouseFest. Reading the tea leaves, let's assume there won't be MouseFest Cruise under any circumstances.

Was crowds the reason for the shift of dates from the old MouseFest schedule? I'm not sure whether any of the Value Season dates between Thanksgiving and mid-December are much different at this point when it comes to in-park crowds. We can't blame any one event - MouseFest, Pop Warner, the DVC holiday celebration, various corporate meetings and conventions, etc. for the larger attendance. Disney built "it" (holiday festivities at Value Season rates) and everybody has come. The Pop Warner and cheerleading events do put a lot of booking pressure on the Value and Moderate resorts. The 2010 Pop Warner schedule starts on December 4 (with Division Championships) and runs through December 11. If folks want to avoid Pop Warner, that doesn't leave many other dates during the "sweet spot."

The MF Cruise has been an important piece of the scheduling puzzle. Basically, it really only made sense to have the MF Cruise precede the Land. The Sunday departure for the 4-night cruise kills half of the "big weekend" on Land if the Cruise follows Land (we tried it one year, and it was pretty much a disaster). If the Cruise precedes Land, a cruise that starts anytime earlier than about Dec. 1 runs into higher, Thanksgiving season rates. That's why the old MF schedule tended to push Land closer to the middle of December. Eliminate the Cruise, and there's more flexibility for Land scheduling (like avoiding Pop Warner in order to get better group room rates).

So the questions for now would be,

Do you want to wait for news from the MouseFest Committee?
If there is no MouseFest, would you still be interested in December 1-5?
Would you be interested in different dates in December?
Might you be more interested in, say, Early November or sometime in October, during F&WF?
Right after New Years...

Minnie Lor · 01-31-2010, 04:20 PM

Lots of things to think about, Dave. Personally, I can't make it the first week of December because of work. The next weekend works out better for me. I do love that time of year with the decorations, extra parties, the cooler weather, resort rates, and generally lower crowds.

I also love the end of October with F&WF and the MNSSHP. That would be a fun option.

Of course, I'll wait to see if the MF committee has any plans this year before deciding. I'm a Passporter first and foremost, but listen to various podcasts and interact with others that aren't PP. So I love it when we all get together.

**cindybelle** · 02-01-2010, 05:28 PM

Dave, at this point I'm on board with just about any of the ideas you listed. For me personally, the earliest weekend in December works better because I wouldn't have to work around my company's holiday party (always the second Saturday in December, and I

everybody I work with and have never missed a holiday party in 21 years and don't plan to start now

). But I'd also gladly come for at least a few days the second week of December and would hope to do a few things with my PP buds. So if that second weekend is one that more of the PP regulars choose, I'll work around it.

While I hope to do a cruise with PP someday, I probably wouldn't do so THIS year.

I can only imagine what a scheduling nightmare this has to be for you. I'm more interested in MNNSHP and MVMCP (plus the Osborne Lights and the wonderful Candlelight Processional at Epcot) than I am in the F&WF. But might I show up there if you plan an event? Probably.

You can count on me showing up for something that the PP group does in December 2010.

Now, what does everybody else think?

**Eeyore Tattoo** · 05-06-2010, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Minnie Lor

I also love the end of October with F&WF and the MNSSHP. That would be a fun option.

I would love that too. DH can never get ant time off from Thanksgiving to Christmas. He would love to be able to go & join in all the fun..

Clarigirl · 02-03-2010, 11:09 AM

I'm all for anything that avoids Pop Warner - but if that is the only way to get together, I am a go for that too! The kids had so much fun at the dessert party in May and the other planned events, we would be grateful to just have set dates so that we can get a jump on searching for reasonable airfare - it may be me plus 10 11 year olds this time

**HiddenMickey** · 02-03-2010, 02:11 PM

Early December is a bad time for me because of work, thus my only attendance in 2001.

If it was moved it Oct/early Nov, it would be something I could more easily schedule.

BostonTeaParty · 02-08-2010, 03:51 PM

I like the first half of December for the MVMCP, the decorations, parades, shows, the festive atmosphere, etc. The more intimate gatherings are ideal. Just a personal preference, as I enjoy spending time with PP's and getting to know them better.

skateycat · 05-26-2010, 05:55 PM

any updates here with mousefest or potential PP meet in the fall, december or whenever??????

**CRCrazy** · 05-26-2010, 06:45 PM

I haven't heard of anything official - but hopefully someone will get the ball rolling.

I don't have any trips planned for this year -

Shelley the Pooh · 05-26-2010, 06:57 PM

I would like to attend if something gets put together as this is my second year as a PP and have met some of you but would love to meet more. Plus, if I go this year, it will more than likely be a solo trip and what a better way to spend it than with fellow PPs!!

I am pretty flexible and the suggested dates are all ok, except, right after new years, that's a toughie. If MNSSHP or MVMCP are happening when it is planned all the better.

**cindybelle** · 05-28-2010, 02:35 PM

Would any PassPorters (PPs) be interested in this: There is no MouseFest this year but there is Reunion 2010 | December 1-5, 2010

I'm looking into this and may change my original plans to go Dec. 5-8.

Except will December 1-5 be crowded because it's right after Thanksgiving weekend? Or will most people who are at WDW for Thanksgiving weekend clear out of there then?

I would really, really, REALLY like to see some PPs at WDW in early December!